And? That changes nothing because every tank has a round like that dawg…
That round is actually good, because it works all the way to even 11.0, I just recently decided to spade this goofy looking leopard and its first stage ammo is m111, you can tell by the amount of matches most kills were made by m111.
As a person who has spaded the AMX-30 BRENUS, I thought this post was going to advocate for raising the BR before I clicked on it.
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yeah, brenus in no way is suffering
Did you not find yourself often get killed when your gun is still wobbly? I mean you will also often find yourself missing targets that drove pass because your gun hadn’t settle down lol
It has an APFSDS round over 50% better than that of T-55AMD, it has thermals, laser range finder, and rather good mobility.
I mean, I do, but overall the tank is fine. ERA makes for a good upgrade at 8.7, which is closer to prime HEAT BRs than most other tanks with ERA. I don’t understand why the topic is about the AMX-30 B2 BRENUS, when the inferior base B2 version is at the same BR.
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As othrs have said the only isssue with it is the lack of stabiliser at a br where everyone else has it. The tank slaps I have slmost gotten a nuke with it a couple times. Sadly always a bit off but the tank dies well when played right. I will admit it does suffer in cqb maps.,
This is the same old story, gaijin and his laziness when it comes to adding and balancing vehicles. They could leave the AMX-30B2 at Br 8.3 or 8.7 as is, and give the AMX-30 Brenus the real protection of its ERA and add the OFL 105 G2 while it is at Br 9.0.
PD:Another curious thing that I’m almost sure gaijin has not implemented (nor will ever do). That’s a photo of the cut of an APDS-FS OFL 105 F1.
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Amx 30B2 is solid at 8.7, albeit situational, the BRENUS would, in a reality without the compression we have in game likely be +0.3 or more due to adding ERA, IRCM, and more smokes.
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I would say it couldn’t go lower. It has everything but a STAB. Good Dart, Thermals, IRCM, LRF, ERA, Decent Reload, Good Mobility, etc. Its not amazing but I don’t think its an 8.3 tank. Victim of compression.
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Come on. I’m speaking from experience after spading it, you haven’t even played France.
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Yeah 100% agree with that, I would trade LRF/Thermals or APFSDS for STAB
Maybe the round is better, but if you cant get it on target, it’s a moot point. The T-55AMs are better tanks, APFSDS+LRF+STAB is all you need
ERA really isn’t a positive point on this tank, at this BR only stock tanks shoot chemical round.
If removing the ERA for a reduced weight was an option, I would take it. It would probably even help with the gun laying time due to less weight on the suspension.
The only time ERA saved me was against an Ikv91, which is a 8.0 tank.
The T-55s don’t fire good APFSDS, they fire a round that’s effectively an APDS round that’s slightly more resistant to bad shots.
Thermals and a lolpen round are at least on-par if not superior.
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Technical and paper abilities mean a lot in this besides the player.
2 tanks are driving towards a cap. One has lolpen+thermals, the other one has APDS+stab. Who wins?
Even if the APDS doesn’t instantly kill the other tank, whoever gets the first shot off usually wins.
The average player at this BR knows they can center-mass the AMX’s for a mission kill.
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You mean like the technical ability of having a STAB at a BR where most other tanks have a STAB?
Or having the technical ability of having ERA equipped at a BR where most other tanks shoot kinetic rounds?
Or having the technical ability of LRF+Thermals in a CQC-centric game?
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The one in the better position to spot and shoot the other wins.
Thermals alone add 0.3 to a vehicle.
A 50% better round adds 0.3 typically.
AMX-32 adds a stabilizer is 0.7 higher.
T-55A adds a stabilizer is 0.3 higher than T-54.
M60AOS adds a stabilizer is 0.3 higher than M60.
You ignore the stabilizer and accuse everyone of having skill issues… typical.
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