Why is the 9K127 Vikhr in game?

Its not that hard to counter, just extremely annoying to be, for example, sprayed by ka52 cannon apds when your in an MBT and dying without even making it to the battle itself

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Yeah I know, I’ve started to spawn the ZBD04 first out of fear of being rushed by helis, lmao

@warthogboy09
Keep claiming War Thunder players are all wrong, all your posts do is protect War Thunder from crticism.
“Gaijin are incapable of making mistakes like bugs!” type nonsense.

A new bug appears and I acknowledge it instantly.
Your psots demean those that are quick to acknowledge facts as they appear, a rather toxic behavior.

I’m trying to spade the PUMA so i can start grinding the other puma that’s gonna get released soon so i can finally firstspawn a decent IFV lol… beglietpanzer is goated too though so no biggie

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aaah yes, gaijin, who removes paper tanks of other countries and adds only russian paper tanks

There are zero paper tanks in the Soviet tech tree.
They were never even developed by Gaijin.
So nice implying that Germany and Japan are Russian with that bogus statement.

It seems like a flawed comparison. The Shturm is faster than the Hellfire, it doesn’t mean that they are in any way comparable or that Hellfire-carrying helos cannot go up in BR given the already great BR difference…

Both Vikhr and TOW-2 are line-of-sight AGMs that fire “one at a time”*.
Yes, I know you can ripple fire as many as you can press within 2.8 seconds, and that’s not a rule.

So the primary differences: Speed and distance, are the notable things that’ll cause a difference in BR.
Similarly to how AGM-114 is [incorrectly] 10.3 currently on the low end.

Lynx today is Ka-50 of the past.

There are other primary differences, such as utility. Having proxy fuses, F&F, Thermals, and optimal flight trajectory all impact missile performance. The Vihkr is a much better utility missile than the Hellfires when it comes to dealing with aerial threats and SPAAs.

Proxy fuse is a negative as it reduces the penetration capability of the missile.
Ka-50 also lacks thermals, F&F, and optimal flight trajectory.
Cause line-of-sight AGMs are a negative.

Not that I have noticed…

True, but the missile is still extremely capable for its BR. You get free kills on Helicopters and can dish out a ton of damage without having to worry too much about SPAAs.

Uh, no. Beam-riding missiles are better in game than top-down missiles, unless you introduce F&F into the equation, then top-down is (arguably) better.

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Like what?

What are you talking about bro? You’re in a helicopter not in a tank, ofc it’s harder to get an Abrams front aspect with a Tow missile, but you’re not front aspect, you’re in a helicopter in a top-down position, literally any AGM in the game one shots(unless a War Thunder moment happens), if you hit the roof of a tank

Like I said in the original post, there are Ataka modernization programs such as 9M120M and 9M120D, which supposedly bring it’s range up to the level of other top-tier ATGMs, without bringing the OP features of the Vikhr

I’m not talking about dealing with them in a tank, I know they’re nothing OP if you have an AA(though dealing with Ka-50s in a Roland is quite miserable) just like any helicopter, I’m saying it’s miserable to deal with them when you’re in a helicopter

Gotta love having to change my playstyle just because 3 vehicles in the game have some weaponry. That’s how it’s supposed to be in well balanced games, right?

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Its not just 3 vehicles try every spaa, forward heli spawn is 4km from the battlefield well within range of every spaa in 11.3+. That is why we dont spawn there. Its also the unprotected one which means its very easy to camp with something like a z-19e with TY-90s.

I literally said in the main post that nothing brings me any problems except the 3 vehicles I mentioned. I can deal with AAs at that range just fine, if anything I do it even better than at long range, because at close range they don’t get as much time to react, and spawncampers are pinged on the minimap, so I mostly just don’t spawn when that happens

Same thing we’ve been doing, die and curse in the chat.

Abrams is Russian now cause fuel tanks are correctly modeled as spall absorbers?
AV-8B is Russian now because it’s Su-25SM3’s equivalent?
Apache is Russia now that Kamov is less survivable?
Pantsir being useless against my Tornado IDS ASSTA is notable in favor of Pantsir how?
Structural steel is all Russian in War Thunder? Guess you should go claim to the US government that Bradley’s Russian…

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