Why is the 9K127 Vikhr in game?

Gib AGM-114L and that’s it

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he also thinks the 2s38 should have the same br has the cv9040c
so yea of course he thinks ka50/ka50 are the most balanced vehicles in the game

reminds me about the guy who was angry even type 90/ type 10 did outrun Russian mbts

Vikhr and Ataka are two separate missile systems for a start and not a modernization program like you claim

I never said Vikhr and Ataka are the same thing, I said that there’s a modernization program for the Ataka missile, which supposedly brings it’s range up 8-10km.

suffers greatly in penetration for this having 800MM of pen vs everyone elses 1000MM-1400MM

800MM is enough to pen any top-tier tank, more than that is just a big number for the sake of having a big number that won’t change anything unless you decide you want to try to pen Leopard’s cheeks for some reason(pretty sure even that won’t be possible unless it’s the AKD-10 with it’s 1400MM of pen).

cause even 10KM range isn’t unique

Some missiles having the same range as the Vikhr literally means nothing, like in what circumstance are you going to launch your ATGM at 10KM range? Anything past 8KM is also just numbers for the sake of numbers, I can barely remember making any launches even at 8KM and can’t even remember a single one of them being successful, because the stars have to align for such a long range launch to not get interrupted by anything.

I don’t think that’s a good solution, it would just power creep the game even more, like what would nations that don’t use the Longbow(which is like everyone except US and Japan?) do? Instead of adding more OP weaponry it should be exchanged for something similar in performance to what’s available for most nations.

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Dont spawn at the forward helipads, rule literally number 1.

@bish189
“If you can’t use TOW-2s against an Abrams, that’s a skill issue. Check my stats bro.”

@meki98
Sorry that you’re angry my Type 90s outrun your tanks.
Thanks for admitting Russia’s your favorite tho.

i was literally talking about someone else

you should bring the the early ah64 into heli ec there you will see how balanced the ka50/k52 is
putting the f15c with its current loadout against the mig23mld would be more balanced

I did, I easily outscore all Kamovs due to the ability to fire far faster.
AH-64 is the F-15C, and Ka-52 is the Mig-29SMT.

do you have a replay for that the kamarov is both faster and has more missiles which are also faster

also guess two times which is better in anti air

Friendly reminder the Longbow Hellfire is older than the Vikhr. It’s existence in-game without the 114L is entirely a fabrication on gaijins end, and does not represent any real life or historical precedent.

Kamov has 12 missiles [4 less than Apache], and is the same speed.


First attempt at playing a PVE match effectively solo, 8000 score.

Both are effectively the same in anti-air; their best anti-air missiles are manpads.
Vikhrs are worse than the Iglas for anti-air role.

Is 114L beam riding or?

MMW ARH seeker, as well as having a proximity fuse.

Proxy fuse would be great for A2A
I’d really like to see blast fragmentation Hellfire at some point in game

In terms of speed, Vikhr is the fastest
Mokopa being second with 530m/s
Meanwhile Hellfires go 475m/s. They aren’t slouches but it is noticeably slower

Yes, and that speed helps a bit… but with SPAA in the area you can’t use the Vikhrs like that regardless cause you’ll die.
This isn’t heli PVP anymore where the velocities between AGMs matter as much anymore.
What matters today is the following:
If there is no anti-air, Vikhr and AGM-114 are usable.
If there is anti-air, Vikhr and AGM-114 are not usable.
Only F&F IR missiles are usable when anti-air is up.

There is not a single missile anti-air with a missile speed below that of 850m/s for the 11.x class of SPAA that Ka-50 and Ka-52 face [cause Ka-50 is stuck in 11.3 lineups].

I beg to differ
In Heli PVE lobbies, Vikhrs speed is actually advantageous
In 90% of cases, Ka-50s and 52s are first to strike down the convoys and other targets

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Yeah. Let’s just completely ignore the fact that Vihkrs can be used as an APS unlike every other missile you have discussed.

TOW-2 has 4.4kg of TNT equiv and the Vikhr has 5.1kg of TNT equiv. Its not really roughly the same if the Vikhr has 16% more TNT equiv mass.

DeltaV of the Vikhr is 897m/s. The TOW-2 has 290m/s.