Why is the 76 jumbo at 6.3 br

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I never said that.
Buffing Panther’s speed instead of adding light vehicles doesn’t make sense.

I would say USA does.It has the ammo to slay super heavy WW2 and the 50 cals for the light stuff.It has the Skyraider type CAS as well. Tiny HEAT FS firing mini tanks create havoc against Germany in confined spaces.

Germany is a bit of a one trick pony as far as I can see at 6.7. Open to debate of course.

I might be wrong but I think they meant that Germany has the best singular 6.7 vehicle in the game, not that it has the best 6.7 lineup.

OK my apologies if that is true : )

It was mostly aimed at Tiger II H.

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And??? just a few months later their win ratios are similar to the others nations.

The problem is right now Germany dont have any of both.

Lets start at saying that the panther is 6.0 and jumbo 6.3. So already you have to justify keeping the Jumbo higher br.

You are actually correct, its not the turret ring, its the lower mantlet thats 100mm. I’m aiming at that area for the shot trap so i always thought it was penning the ring. That being said, the turret ring is still vulnerable to a panther at most ranges.

You choose alaska, but even on alaska you are shooting from B to C a lot (400m+) down the 2 line, down the 6 line, ect. 2 of the 3 caps are out of any sort of terrain that would benefit the jumbo. Not just that, until you get to under 200m i’d say the panther has the advantage due to being able to pen the UFP while the jumbo still has to aim for weak points.

So yeah, you can cherry pick areas where you are under 200m, but its not hard at all to find scenarios where a panther is just as good or better than a jumbo when you try to pick situations that benefit the jumbo more.

While a stab is a pretty nice advantage, being able to UFP a tank is just about as good. On the move a panther is very stable and if you have to hit small weak points and i have to hit your ufp, i’d take that bet.

5.9s reload? come on man. What percentage of players do you think are acing and full crew leveling a 6.3 tank? That argumen reeks. Not just that, your 6s fire rate doesn’t realy matter when fighting over ridges. The ability to reverse, repair, then one-shot you back is a pretty big advantage. Not only that, but the ability to one-shot a tank in 1v2 or 2v2 situations is very often the determining factor. Disabling them (especially when you can’t blow the breach or barrel on your first hit) isn’t good enough.

I think this back-and-forth proves my point though. There are a lot of situations where a jumbo is better than a panther. There are a lot of situtations where a panther is better than a jumbo. So why is the jumbo 6.3 and the panthers are 6.0?

As for the VK 3002, try comparing it to EVERY med tank at its br. Its armor is pretty close to the ARL at 5.3. ~100mm protection across the whole front with some small 80mm points. FFS the chi-ri at 5.0 has, at best, 75mm protection with multiple 20mm plates. providing weak points.

The churchill is nowhere near the maus. The maus can pen nearly every single tank that it sees by point and clicking. The church has a whole plethora of tanks it sees that it can’t pen, has AP only ammo, and has none of the crew spacing durability of the maus.

You are trying to make an argument with a US 75mm vs the church … just use the APCR. literally what its designed for. flat vertical plates. Again, you have to try really hard to make this argument.

Are you sure???


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Yeah… that wasnt the best comparison lol.

check the turret.

Why would you shoot the ufp when you can shoot the 100mm turret.

Because you said this…

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You encounter 110mm or less armor from literally every angle you can engage an ARL. Its like saying the tiger 1H is the best armored tank because there is that one spot around its driver that has 1000mm of armor.

Yes that is correct 100mm or less the sides are comparable to the vk the arl being 50mm and the vk 40mm but I personally think the arl is worse because its turret is a gigantic weak spot.
As a German main I think panthers are kind of OP at their br.

I dont know but you said this:

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Didn’t you already post this? and I said just because you like it doesn’t make it good. I will correct my statement though just because YOU are good with it doesn’t make it good.

not sure if here or another post.

anyway, i dont see whats wrong with the vehicle, Its very versatile, I cant think of very many things you cant deal with. Sure its not the strongest sniper, but its one mean brawling tank.

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Its a mean brawling tank at its br… 6.3 or lower. 6.7 it get’s easily sent to Jesus at 6.7 its essentially a light tank no armor weak gun.

If you said full uptiers are bad since they moved the lightly armored cramped tanks up to 8.0 (leoprads, of40s, bmp1s, obj906 etc etc) id say fair enough. but the only thing that i can think of right now that will give you trouble is an is3 and a jagtiger. otherwise you can deal with eveyrhing else

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Man you must not play any enemies with a functioning frontal lobes because any tiger 2 or is 2 would easily deal with the low penn no armor jumbo 76. I know I’ve sent a ton of those to their creator in my tiger 2.

Also there needs to be a gap between tanks with stabs and no stabs because playing at like 8.3 with no stabs at 9.3 is a joke.