From 3-4km away Stinger is quite a small threat if you don’t go afk.
Depends.
I’ve got track lock from ~6km away and at those ranges Stinger is pretty much useless.
You could also launch from 7km away on stationary targets, as they’re very unlikely to move far enough to get out of the seeker’s FoV in time.
is it really? them tracked vehicles were always more responsive.
no doubt
i didnt understand that one
it did to me at some games tho i wont push that it is of wast importance. Its just it can survive some shots that Type 93 woldnt.
Depends on your aircraft.
True. I have even had a few times where i point locked ahead of a moving tank and timed it so that he would be in the seeker’s FoV once it got close enough.
I do.
Yes because everyone else knows how useless those are and just dont care using them.
I’ve used Stinger systems quite a bit and most of the aware planes had no issues dodging it from that far out.
Yes, and at that range even Strela is pretty much outmatched, let alone vehicles carrying Stingers.
If people that are carrying TV missiles are frequently shot down by Stingers, I think they carry most of the blame themselves.
The a7 struggles with dodging.
At least with stuff like the a10/su25, you get enough flares to not worry.
Self-criticism is a very admirable trait.
SANTAL is 9.3 with a radar though, plus more missiles, more missiles RTF, and generally better missiles. 9.7 is a BR with primarily gun-missile SPAA, there’s even the ZSU, PZG, and Machbet at 9.3 with radar, MANPADs, and guns.
Mistrals are dogcrap, actually worse than Stingers.
How so? Mistrals have higher G load, larger uncaged seeker angle, 3x larger explosive mass, higher top speed, larger proximity radius, shorter guidance delay, lower drag coefficient. Do you think it’s worse because just the slightly larger seeker fov? The moderately lower dV?
I was talking about you, buddy.
You’ll get what I’m talking about when you try it out.
At any real distance Stinger will maneuver better and you’ll actually know what to expect from a certain launch.
You were looking in a mirror. You saw someone that can’t even use one of the most OP weapons in the game properly
Please avoid any more insults, and let’s get back on topic.
Thank you.
No more off-topics please.
Thank you.
“Slightly larger seeker FOV” “moderately lower dV” LMAO. 300+ m/s difference in ΔV is “moderate”?? On top of that, Mistral’s propulsion design is single-stage with 2.2 seconds of burn. Sure, it’s less visible, but it really can’t compare in energy with the AIM-92A’s 2 stage design with total 7s burn time. Stinger also has the better acceleration.
Yes, there is advantage of 16G Mistral vs 13G Stinger. But the Mistral max fin angle is lower, meaning it can’t pull AOA as well. It also has 3s shorter guidance time than Stinger at 14s, which when combined with the worse ΔV results in a much lower range.
I don’t believe Mistral is definitively worse than Stinger. Mistral is ultimately a sidegrade, with the only significant advantages being the much higher explosive power of warhead and the reduced time of visibility.
Ozelot doesn’t use AIM-92A but FIM-92K
You’re not even looking at the right missile brih
Yeah, I did look at the wrong missile, that was an oversight there. But anyways, AIM-92A is almost exactly the same as FIM-92. Differences are that guidance lifetime of FIM92 are 15 seconds (not 17s of AIM-92), and that FIM-92K has a proxy fuze. Probably the largest difference is pre-launch gimbal limit of 8° (FIM-92) vs 15° (AIM-92). In summary, that’s three (3) parameters difference in comparison to the dozens of parameters total.
Otherwise, it’s identical. Mass and dimensions, engine, all the seeker values excluding aforementioned, explosive mass, fins, maneuverability, everything. Even the PID values are the exact same. Therefore, my argument still stands; the only meaningful difference is Mistral’s superiority for close launches due to its larger gimbal limit. Otherwise Mistral is mostly worse.
My Stingers just refused to lock a Rooivalk at like 1km away. Is this a problem with Type 91s too?
roland can’t hit anything and I would address a 9.0 to it, at at least it can be below stinger carriers