I mean you also just gave them a modern jet engine that basically revived their entire aviation industry and allowed them to quickly and rapidly modernize their air force leading to them having the ability to contest the West in the air. So not really single handedly stopping them from doing anything especially given the fact they would become a Global power and arguably an Empire considering they controlled a good sphere of influence.
Do some digging then dude. It is worth the look.
It’s actually somewhat simpler in my observation. Every shell with explosive filler has “HE frag” that acts as the trigger for overpressure. Basically on an enclosed tank, if a shell detonated and any of the “HE frag” hits an internal module, it’ll trigger overpressure (which is why something like Sgt. York could overpressure a T-10M for example, the cloud of HE frags simply allows it to find micro-armour holes where the frag manages to hit an internal module thus triggering overpressure damage).
Now the reason big HE is very reliable in doing overpressure damage is simply because it seemingly has a large amount of HE frag compared to other shell with HE filler. HEAT has a lot less, but HESH has almost none for whatever reason. This means that in a hit, there’s a large chance that none of the HE frag actually pens the targeted plate and hits an internal module because none of them actually head towards it (since the HE frag dispersion is basically an RNG in a spherical pattern). That’s why sometimes hitting a Tiger I’s mantlet with big HESH/HEAT could overpressure (when RNG decides to send the frag straight to the hull roof) or not ( when RNG decides to send the frag every other direction and not towards the hull roof).
The simple fix to this is to simply give HESH more HE fragments to make its overpressure more reliable or to just make overpressure mechanic rely on the overpressure sphere instead of the HE frag as the trigger for it though the latter may make micro-armour holes to trigger it even easier to find…
Even simpler - expand HESH fragmentation from the actual HESH effect back up to 1.69 levels. Then the round is actually effective at deleting Soviet (or any other angled) tanks like it should be.
Yea that as well, HESH spalling is actually very anemic nowadays compared to how it was. I remember back then I would use HESH as my primary shell on M50 Ontos because the damage was actually amazing.
Indeed, I didn’t play it back then but have seen YT clips of people who did.
I am of the opinion that if an ammo type is rendered so unreliable people won’t use it unless they have nothing else to shoot, why even add it into the game?
While yes that is true that HESH spalls perpendicular to the impacted plate, the fact that the damage is so anemic nowadays compared to the way it was should be a concern especially since there are tanks that solely rely on HESH, 2 of which are 8000 GE premiums. Buffing the HE frag (for overpressure reliability) and HESH spalling would actually make it usable again especially for CEV/AVRE’s HESH which is generally already very difficult to use (long reload, low velocity, and currently very unreliable damage for 22 kg of TNT).
If you watched a video of FV4005 from like 6-7 years ago, you’d see how old HESH shreds even in the absence of overpressure/hullbreak.
Tbh I’m not entirely sure why was it nerfed to the ground, but yes it was extremely powerful to the point where it is a genuine secondary shell for dedicated damage instead of pen rate. Very apparent on British tanks that has HESH and APDS.
It was nerfed into the ground because the whales were singing about their IS-6s and T-54s and IS-3s being blown the fuck up by it…exactly like HESH was designed to do.
As the IS-6 was brand-new at that time and selling better than any prior premium before, Snail chose short-term profits over long-term game health, and literally invented a bogus source to nerf HESH exactly against 60-degree sloped plates where it would fail to penetrate Russian tanks exactly a month prior to the devastating nerf. Then even after top tier moved on, they kept clobbering it over and over, reducing the damage even further.
Now top tier has left the IS-6 behind years ago. But the old nerf remains.
I don’t want HESH to be triggering overpressure more. Hell, i’d get rid of all overpressure if i could. I want SPALLING. Overpressure is largely made up. External HE/HESH detonations aren’t killing crew with internal pressure waves. Especially when its something like a 30mm or hitting a very large tank like a maus Instead, the external explosion is causing chunks of metal to spall off the internal metal plate. Currently, HE doesn’t spall. If it hits crew, its killing everything in a compartment or none. I want spalling modeled and a significant increase in the penetration of spalling chunks. 5mm plates stopping all spalling from even the largest HESH rounds is just crap.
Tbh, irl it just mangles the tank instead of killing the crew via overpressure, essentially what the old hullbreak mechanic tried to do. I’d rather have a renewed hulbreak in conjunction with overpressure.
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