Why is ground grind so hard in comparison to air grind?

I always play multiple vehicles in GRB. I play around 5 tank lineups, but for the amount of time i spend in GRB battles compared to ARB, ARB is a much more rewarding gamemode. a 13 kill GRB game is about equivalent to a 3-kill ARB game

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Yeah, hard limit of 3 spawns SB should give more.
Especially since the hard F2P limit for GRB is 5 spawns.

@LostPlayer2023
The thing is rewards are normalized for the context of each game mode.
Per minute RP is similar across all game modes.
Game modes have different expectations. GRB expects you to spawn 2.5 times on average.
If 1:1 is expected for air, 3:3 is expected for ground. Though mid-low you can get 5:5 semi-consistently which grants more rewards than air RB matches on average.

Skill differences between air and ground should be ignored as that’s bias.
I’m better at air than ground, that’s a bias of mine that I have to ignore.

So do I need to spawn more often to get more rewards?
I mean when I get a match where I got 4000 score and tha match took 15 min I get around 20k in a high tier premium. With 4000 score and 15 min game in air RB I get 40k which is almost double the RP.

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Score is not directly connected to RP.
And yes, ground RB expects you and the enemy to spawn at least ~2.5 times on average.
It’s why the per-frag rewards are less to equalize the per-minute RP rewards.

In over 5000 battles I never got mre than 30k rp in a good match without boosters ofc

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I usually can’t even get 20k RP, even when i nuke

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What did you expect from air-biased devs ?

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And even then after 7,204,711 total score in GRB I only managed to grind 1 tree fully. And I got china and russia and sweden almost toptier while with just a bit more than 6 million score I got Isreal fully, Russia almost full (just some bombers left) Italy fully and that with only premium time and no premium planes.

I’ve gotten one, of course I’ve never gotten a 30k RP air match without boosters. Max for air was 24k with ~7 frags using a premium rank 4 prop.
Max frags in any match was 26 for ground, which was my ~30k RP match.
If air is easier for you, that’s a skill matter as well.

Again, score is irrelevant. RP is all that matters, not score.

But thats the only way to compare air and ground imo. There is nothing else left that just my feeling

in regards to this. per-minute RP rewards are barely useful when talking about this. For example:
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This is a GRB match in which I killed 11 players and captured 2 points. (also, I find it very funny if I captured 3 zones I get same rewards as killing 11 players) even though I lost, 17.5k RP is not very good for a match such as this. (with extra bonus for grinding a “new” nation.) In contrast, this lackluster match with the J-7D yielded much more RP per minute, even though I played badly. Also, winning the match isn’t even relevant in GRB as there is no RP reward for winning.
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(9 of those 11 kills were in the T-55-AM1)

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For me it common the get around 30k-34k rp in air battles with the J7D because I mostly survive long and get around 5 kills.

If you want to play some fuuny tank I can recommend china I get 3 nukes in 4 matches with one lineup that was so funny

But anyways 24k rp was the highest I ever got in a premium tank

No, the way to compare air to ground is base RP rewards.


For example. Of course that T-55AM-1 rewards were in 2019 - 2020 when ground actually had a normalization issue that wouldn’t be fixed until 2023, and despite that has similar RP rewards per action done. Just one is across more matches cause I obviously had a higher skill level with Sea Vixen.

@MistaFin
Victory loss bonus disparity for one, which sadly the tables don’t have a line for, likely combined with “Time Played”.


I’m 99% sure this was without any boosters. I’ve also got over 30k in the Ju-288 before, as well as several other 20k rp matches in the J-7D.

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Do I have to say anything…
20 kills and not even 20k rp
@AlvisWisla

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im not saying you are wrong, but you aren’t playing premiums… On the flip side, I have played ARB matches in a non premium mirage where I get 30K for 5 kills… soooooooo


16 kills + a nuke in turm III noboosters. This is the most insane ground match I ever played

And that’s with a premium account too.

Yep and 1 premium vehicel. I died like 10 times but anyways

I played 1 premium tank and got the most kills with it ig and i even have premium acc oh and I respawned 10 times so 4 times more as what gajin expects right?