I love a good discussion where people try to make a reasonable argument and are dismissed for no apparent reason.
OK my friend.
Lets take US: M3 Lee has more armor than anything German around that BR.
M4A3 Sherman at 3.0 has similar protection to VK at 5.0.
M4, M4A2, then at 5.3 Jumbo has more armor than anything Germany can field until Jagdpanther (JP js way easier to pen thx to huge plate with no weird angles). Then US has several heavies in the 6.3-7.0 range and they are actually kinda useful as opposed to meme material like JT and Ferdi.
But OK, lets take a look at Soviets - T-50, Su-122 (good armor for its BR), T-34s, T-34E, KV-1, KV-1S, KV-1Zis, KV-85,all have more armor than anything Germany can field.
Germany has Panther at 5.3, but Su-85M at 5.0 is way better protected vs anything with less than 180 pen (so basically outside of long 88, Panther gun and US 90mm, it’s safe unless cupola is hit or someone gets lucky with tiny lower front).
Them we have IS-1 (well armored for 5.7), Su-100, Su-122-54, IS-2 44, T-44. IS-2 standard is no longer “well armored” at 6.3, so lets ignore it.
Doesn’t sound like they lack heavy armor. T-44 is harder to kill than King Tiger in a lot of scenarios.
Brits have whole Churchill VII emotional rollercoaster at 4.7. I’m not saying it’s good. I’m saying it’s not like Germany has some exceptional amount of armor.
It certainly is true German 6.0 lineup is very heavy. But it’s also extremely non-versatile, lacking good CAS (even pay2win Do is just meh), lacking good mobility and good SPAA (Zerstorer is horrible)
In my experience, no amount of angling in a Tiger H1 will save you. You get oneshotted regardless. Doubt it’s any better in a Tiger E either.
Granted, I also used to play ground a lot on a pc account several years ago where everything was quite different and with changes to both the game and the playerbase probably just getting straight up better, what worked back then probably just doesn’t work now.
I never said I played Germany, I said I played against it, maybe read my argument before replying. From what I see playing with and against Germany, there is no problem and Germany has its fair share of good vehicles
Jumbo vs tiger, neither can pen each other except for weak points. T26E5 and Tiger II (the good one), same thing. As for the Russian tank, sure, a bit of Stalinism, they have relatively weak turret cheeks and cupolas on most vehicles
Dont go them giving leasons about somehting you never played.
Germany is mostly (probalby 5.0 and 5.7 are the only meh BRs) unplayble between 3.7 to 8.0 and is not only “cuz bad players”.
Of course I don’t bother playing every nation, I sorta kinda have a life and even occasionally touch grass. If you only ask the German Playerbase, of course they’re gonna say that they suffer. You can’t just ignore my perfectly valid arguments just cuz I don’t play Germany
German tank destroyers shred absolutely everything. Prove me wrong.
Imagine open a drive school when you actually never drive a car.
Again go and play it and show us how OP are lol.
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Buddy you watch any good player who is a German main (spookston my goat), I think they will disagree with you that they suffer
Because many german mains suck. simple as that. WW2 germany is the best in the ww2 bracket. Most of the vehicles are literally point and click. And when it comes to Tiger I and II, just lack of skill again, those are extremely good vehicles, one of my favorite in the entire game - just point, click and annihilate, lol.
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Man cannot disprove my point so he just says random garbage.
Most people complaining about their nation suffering do it because they suck at the game. The nation isn’t bad, it’s you
You mean that usa fanboy youtuber ??? hahahaha.
T-26E5 can pen KT through turret at any distance. APCR exists and while not great, it will get to the ammo at the back pretty often.
Meanwhile KT has IMO more problem penetrating 26E5, as 26E5’s turret is way trickier to tackle, APCR or not.