hadnouts is when is-2 is 6.3 while tiger is 5.7, and t-34 is 4.0 when panzer IV G is 3.3 and H is 3.7
Okay zoomer
ussr is the one that lacks CAS. US is the main CAS nation up until rank 8 where USSR gets advantage because of gaijin’s strange balance features.
My last encounter I fired around 30 and nobody died, then he 1-shot me. But I got an assist eventually.
Also vs T-34 side, 50 shells fired, a lot of penetrations, eventualy tracked him and even started a fire.
Staryed a fire in a game where 1 guy turns yellow after 4 mintues of burning alive.
From my experience, turret with Pzgr 39 is simply unreliable as hell, also if you hit an edge (f.e. edge between mantlet and the turret front plate) the shell disappears instead of deviating slightly towards path of least resistance. Which makes T-34 very annoying to shoot in general.
But nothing beats me tanking 3 shots from Stug IIIg at 50m in Composito.
Better armor + better gun = higher br? What are you talking about? And don’t give me the statcard pen, we all know soviet bs round with angular pen that is too high. How about you mention Tiger E, that is 6.0? What is it supposed to do while being box shaped? Angle? God damn it, soviet 85mm pens angled tiger with ez, let alone 122mm.
For real? How about you mention T-34E that is sitting at the same br? How do you even have the audacity to compare a literal paper coffin with somewhat decent gun to a tank that people have been complaining since 2016? Yea T-34’s turret isn’t the toughest nut to crack, but it’s also small enough for mistakes to have place while shooting it, let alone survivability that includes 2 very real “escape” cards in form of fuel tanks that can eat a whole APHE for you. How about mobility? All of them are fast, having their post war mobility from the very begining. How about that? How about you mention T-34 at 3.3 br? Would we just forget about that?
How about an “all pen” card at 4.3? How about Yag-10 at 3.3? How about Kv-1 at 3.7 having 3/4 of tiger’s armor? How about that?
Yeah, also Tiger at 5.7 has mine launchers (making angling way slower and tedious and getting gunnon target also extremely slow and clumsy and frustrating) and horrible turret rotation. I know there are pay2win Tigers with more armor, but I don’t think we should compare tanks to pay2win vastly superior variants. Oh and Tiger has a bit bigger cupola. IS-2 has bad gun depression all around, but in most cases IS-2 will get its gun on target A LOT faster.
And of course IS-2 has great reverse speed, while Tiger is only OK here.
Vs 6.0 Tiger it’s a more reasonable comparison, but we can agree Tiger has no place at 6.3, and IS-2 is viable even in full uptiers, because the gun still goes through almost everything and the HE also is theoretically viable.
I recently grinded weekly task - “grind X kills with SPAA” so i set up M19, M42 and went wild!
34s cheeks usually dont stand a chance.
Previousl i used the AMX-13DCA, but it got moved too high to 5.0
And the Duster is still 4.0.
it sure has some randomness but sideshot to 34 is also an unreliable as can hit fuel tanks and do nothing more :)
shoud have shoot the turret)
worse chassis (moves slower asf) + 1 shot against 3 to 4 tiger shots + unreliable penetration + aim angles?
And what about armor? It really isnt that great at 6.3 one.
May i also suggest the IS-2-44 at 6.7 then?
uuuuuuuugh, okay? Two E`s. one has weak turret other weak hull front. What’s with them?
tho i agree that them also should move a bit up to meet the german variant at 4.3
literally worst by penetration and best by damage. The only thing making this gun playable is chassis that lets flank and play agressively.
Okay. Then STUG at 4.7 as same penetration but crazilly better chassis
StuG-3F is also 3.3 tbh.
I wanted to give you a full list of viable cas, but it’s just too big. And almost every plane gets a good CAP performance as well, while US CAS is known for having their 1000 pounders on almost every plane - soviets certainly never lacked CAS options with good loadounts, damn you’re getting I-16 at 2.0.
Flying damage sponges in form of IL series. The “Big Boom” in form of pe-8. And YAKs with nose mounted fantasy cannons of 37-45mm, while cannons might be very real - their performance, let alone pen - is a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig stretch, pun intended. Yak alone can cover your CAS needs from 4.0 up to 7.0 or even higher, depending on how “good” you are.
If you’re standing and waitng for those shots to be fired at you - it’s your problem, you’re playing it wrong.
Really? Dismissed.
That’s true, it’s best feature - being trolly. But you’re at 6.3 for the gun.
Here’s your reason for being 6.7, even more bs angular pen, even more base pen.
Kinda weak? Having “kinda weak” turret compared to having weak everything.
I was talking about Pz.4’s gun.
CAS. I-16.
Yeah i got ya buddy. Having a fighter with 50kg bombs = having CAS at that rank. Okay zomer.
CAS is 10 thunderbolts and corsairs with separate bomb drops and cannons and heavy machineguns with many bullets to eat up enemies. Not some shietty 7.62 pewpew with a single drop of 2x50 :/
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471D has less anglar pen than 471B. lol.
Turret was not facing me, and also wanted to make him stop to get more time to blast his side.
Bofors with APHE is my favourite anti tank gun. Have hundres of kills in Ostwind (I, because II sucks). I can do fine with Kugel at 6.7. But god damn, US 40mm has been a pure pain so far for me.
Remember about UT, which is roughly on par with K4 at Ground RB combat altitudes, only waaay better armed.
Soviet CAS planes out-dogfight other nation’s fighters. I have to spawn Ta-152H to deal with them, but me in Ta-152H vs Yak-9K is roughly the equivalent of fighting KV-1 Zis using 76mm M4A3 Sherman. A LOT of things have to go wrong for Sherman to lose.
well thats valid. Tho still you can pen it’s turret side if shoot as close to hull as possible
Ah i loved it on the Crusader AA mk1.
then P-47D-22 + AD-2 cowers same length then AND gives two respawns. And even a bit more. And the D-25… Best Shwalbe-shoot-down machine there.
We have volumetric you know? And it has a shape, contrary to just being flat.
Dude I’ll stop talking with you, you’re too deep in your denial.
Once I go home I’ll post the “typical volumetric detachment from reality” involving this turret, which is painful because of the size - it happens even to Pz IV turret, but it’s a lot easier to avoid just by aiming a bit to the right of the cannon. Also it’s very small, and this means a lot of players will fail to hit it properly at distance if you are moving even a tiny bit.
well it sure does. Still its front is practically a flat steel plate which is not that hard to hit on the 41 version. And the 42 has some protection in cheeks, that`s for sure.
No way, are you serious?
You’re showing it having abysmal stats, how is it doing “better”???
Chi-Nu II has a much better gun.
A Pz IV would NEVER be able to penetrate this kind of armor at this angle. And even if it did, it wouldn’t get a one shot kill because its 75mm has much less filler.
