Why is F4J(UK) at 12.0

R-60M is such a worthless all aspect missile it might aswell not even be one.

does the 23MLD exist? sure, does it shit on the JA37 and F-4? no

F-16A won’t shit on either plane so long as sparrows are in play.

same thing again, so long as sparrows are in play the tigershark will have to win the joust.
the F-16 and F-20 are only superior as long as they can stay out of the 4 kilometer cone of vaporization infront of every F-4E and JA37C

no skill issue, hornet A doesn’t maintain energy like the C does.

your takes are worthless, this discussion is over now.

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Thank god facts doesnt concern themselves with your opinion.

It does, like it or not.

lol F-16 can simply notch both Viggen and F4E’s radar, better yet it can simply multipath it and dunks on them after initial turn.

What’s funny is F-16 doesn’t even need to notch F4E due to F4’s lacking PD radar, it can simply stay at 100-250 meter altitude and radar will not even pick up F-16 due to ground clutter, as for the Viggen you can just notch or abuse the multipath like i’ve said before.

TigerShark can also carry sparrows and has better radar missiles while also having better radar, not gonna even talk about flight performance because it slaps the bithc out of both plane.

Simply untrue, just because you don’t know how to close distance doesn’t mean we also can’t. Learn how to evade radar missiles.

What C are you talking about?

True since I’m talking to a clueless person who thinks radar missiles are the only way to get kills while doesnt even know how to evade them.

One of the most clueless person I’ve ever met on this forum.

Have fun in your dream world buddy.

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Have fun in your dream world buddy.

have fun in yours, you’ve got no idea what you’re talking about.

Says the guy who thinks radar missiles are unavoidable and thinks only way to kill another person is to rely on missiles.

There is a reason why F-16A models,MiG-23MLD,F-20A and F-18A sits higher than those planes buddy.

If you’re still gonna cope then I’m more than happy to challenge you in 1vs1.

Bring your F4E/Ja37 with your radar missiles, I’m gonna use my Netz Mod,F-20,Mig23MLD and F-18A in order.

Quit every single up tier.