i had, in the Tornado ADV during this event.
Maybe…maybe the stressed servers affect the gameplay, but I executed the notch perfectly and watched the aim54 ram into me from the side without an issue.
Also tried to use multipath on flat terrain with even chafing and i had one land straight on the cockpit. mid map Kamchatka, so cant even blame rolling hills or a ditch for it.
Could be inertial guidance
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This is a reminder that ARHs have IOG, meaning they go to where the velocity of the vehicle would be.
Meaning you can successfully chaff and notch, but if you don’t maneuver you can still be hit.
Think of ARHs like easier to defeat AIM-9Ms.
They usually just about line up though so it’s easier to just say that, but yeah.
almost all jets have 60 countermeasures around that br with exception of a few, r27er is worse than sedjil at 25km and 50km, i have tested in costum battles with a friend and the sedjil reached the target faster and with more energy left
the rwr and no all aspect ir are most notable drawbacks, but just because it doesn’t have everything better than the other jets doesnt mean that it should get a free pass to be undertiered…
maybe learn to read
Maybe just stop spewing nonsense. Saying the sedjil are better than r-27er is the most ridiculous statement I’ve seen in a minute. Yes the sedjil are faster, that still don’t make them “better” past 15km, not even remotely. It’s only a bit faster in exchange of no maneuverabilty whatsoever. And you also conveniently left out that it doesn’t have IOG+ DL like the R-27ER.
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listen i dont personally care which is better and did not at any point compare the sedjil to r27er in my original comment, but if this is the hill you want to die on the motor burns significantly longer on the sedjil and gives it an advantage at longer range, in a headon you can fire a r27er at 50km and then wait until 25km and then fire the sedjil and it will still reach first, at anything medium range and closer obviously r27er will win and inertia guidance does also have the benefit of guiding itself for a few seconds so neither are strictly better in every aspect
I’m already tired of this game and its fans for giving broken planes to this country of bad players.
yeah you can dodge any ir missile with countermeasures. and radar missiles can be countered with 3-9. that being said, we should move mig-29 to 12.0 because why not? just utilize multipath or do a 3-9. you don’t know how to use chaff? it’s your problem. you cannot fly low enough? skill issue.
basically you talk bs. “you have ways to counter ARH missile” in no sense makes it fair to have ARH missiles at 12.3 on a supersonic jet. not to mention that F-14A has decent dogfight capability. with ARH missile F-14 can easily pin all other aircraft on the floor, allowing it to shoot ir missiles from upper six of its opponents. that is why “it’s difficult to counter”. you don’t necessary have to shoot down opponents with the ARH missile to gain the advantage. not knowing this makes me feel like questioning your ability of BVR.
Yeah, it does. They are the absolute WORST ARH missiles in the game. They don’t even have enough AOA to pull 17Gs 99% of the time, saying that is like saying an aircraft with faster AIM-9Bs should go to 13.X. Like really man?
No? Like what? You literally acknowledged there are other ways to dodge radar missiles than multipathing.
I never said anything against that. But you don’t have to sacrifice positioning to dodge a phoenix. You lagit only have to do a strong barrel roll. The phoenix is not a magic death missile, there’s a reason a lot of tomcat players take full AIM-7s plus IR missiles, they are significantly harder to dodge and can net more kills than the phoenix.
And they are still ARH missiles. 4-6 six AIM-54 on each F-14. In case you haven’t noticed, Mig-29 has only 2 R-27ER and is equipped with a piece of junk called N-019. and it stands no chance against F-14 in a dogfight. And yet mig29 is at br 12.7.
Oh, I just went into the game and checked your service record, guess I have figured out why you would be so funny. Truly impressive.
You don’t even play the F-14. The MiG-29 is 100% better than the F-14A.
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Let’s just compare planes at their respective BR, shall we ?
At 12.3, there are :
- Mig21Bison
- F4EJ Kai
- Kurnass 2000
- Mirage 2000 S4
- Mirage 2000 S5
With the exception of the 2000-S5 which is also undertiered and should be 12.7 (S4 has some 40 countermeasures total atm, it’s fine at 12.3 because you have to play very conservatively if you don’t wanna run out of CM immediately), the F14A either wins a dogfight against all of these planes or murder them from BVR range. It can be beat by the 21Bison if it manages to dump all energy at once and fire a R73 with HMD. It’s a huge gamble on the Bison part. If that fail, the Mig is completely out of energy.
In BVR, the only plane that can seriously compete with the F14A is the F4EJ Kai, thanks to the F16 radar and Aim7. But the EJ Kai is hyper specialized in BVR. It’s an F4EJ base with zero agility but an excellent electronic kit and a bit more countermeasures. It has no TWS tho which is a drawback.
The Bison has R27R1, which not only are worse than Aim7F/M, but are also very limited by the 80° radar gimbal of the Kopyo-21. A BVR joust with the Bison is a double suicide at best.
Yes, the F14A package isn’t great overall. But it can do everything at least well. It has 7F, it has a long range radar. It has an excellent TWS. It wins a dogfight against every planes from 11.3 to 12.3 with very few exceptions. The Aim54 are just a part of the equation, and it’s far more dangerous when equipped with a decent number of Aim7 after the initial launch of Phoenix. It definitely should go 12.7 altogether.
If the lack of all-aspect really bother you that much, just stick it 9L while it goes 12.7, and folder it with the 14B so the better plane is more accessible.
Can you turn around? Problem solved. Bitching about my stat card shows you can’t argue a point.
BR isn’t decided on a 1v1.
The MiG-21Bison, and Mirage 2000s all have IRCCM missiles which is why they’re at 12.3. The Kurnass shouldn’t be 12.3 IMO since all it has going for it is the Python 3 which is great but not enough. The F4EJK on the other hand has the F-16’s radar and Aim-9Ls + Aim-7F which is fine at 12.3.
Eh the R-27R is mostly equal to the Aim-7F. For one the R-27R is a lot more reliable and doesn’t randomly lose track. It can also pull a lot harder than the 7F making it impossible to dodge at closer ranges while the 7F is dodgable within 5km. The R-27R also has DL + IOG allowing you re-acquire when you’ve lost lock or lock another target. The only real advantage of the 7F is slightly better acceleration and longer range.
The F-14’s radar is fine but I wouldn’t call its TWS excellent. Its only a HDN TWS and will have trouble tracking targets that don’t have a massive difference in speed. Its still a big advantage to have TWS just for situational awareness.
You can just pretty much ignore the Aim-54, they’re really easy to dodge without even notching or going cold. You just have to F-pole it.
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And they can carry only 4 missiles at best. in the meantime, F-14A can carry IR missiles as well as 6 radar guided missiles, not to mention they can be ARH missiles.
If they are so useless, we should ask gaijin to simply remove AIM-54. don’t you think it’s a good idea? after all, it’s useless anyway, right? only.to slow you down in a dogfight.
2 guaranteed kills + HMD + good radar + R-27Rs. That’s why its 12.3.
That’s a pretty weak reason why it should be removed. Its a unique missile and its already in game?