The new Iranian F-14A might be able to go up to 12.7 not too sure though. It trades long range IR missiles and SAHRs for the F-90s so it might be a sidegrade.
More of a sidegrade than anything.
It would go up to 12.7 but the RWR can’t detect other F-14s so the F-14 keeps the F-14 balanced lol.
I personally don’t understand why something like the F-14A with Aim54’s, or the new variant with the Fakour is at12.3 while the F-16A is @ 12.7. If it’s the all aspect missiles, then I feel that it’s weird that something that can reach out and touch people @ 30+ km is “less of a threat” than a jet that still has to get up close and personal after dodging said ARH missiles, especially in a heavy BVR meta.
Perhaps I am missing something to justify it, but it makes no sense to me.
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The F-16A also has a cracked FM. 2nd best in the game.
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Well, now to be the noob…
What’s FM?
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Flight model
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Thanks, too many acronyms to keep track of these days :)
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Because not only the F-16A is the best or second best dogfighter in the game after the Gripen, depending on who you ask, it has a much, much better RWR (and so better situational awareness) and a better radar.
Between 2 players of equal skill the F-16A should have no problem avoiding the sparrow/phoenix and get to the merge where it will clap the F-14A with either guns or all-aspect aim-9L.
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No it hasn’t.
You dodge their AIM-54, then you counter as they don’t have any BVR missiles left.
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speaking of IRIAF kit is too potent at 12.3, decent airframe and fakours can hit long range 50km shots, has extremely quick acceleration and is a fox 3 so it can guide itself, can also take 2 r27s for close up defense or trade them for 2 sedjil which while unreliable have managed to hit easy 25km shots if it doesnt lose lock, the mig29 is 0.4 higher and has 2 r27er which are still worse at anything past like 15km so i dont see why this plane should be lower than mig29 or f16a
Gaijin balances off of stats though. The F-14 has a shitty RWR. There’s usually like 12 F-14s on each side so they end up killing each other, meaning the win rate should hover around 50%. Good luck convincing Gaijin with that.
60 countermeasures (and hot as heck engines), so good luck flaring more than 2 missiles shot at rear aspect
Horrible RWR
Zero all aspect IR missiles, and the only ones it has are 20Gs while many contemporaries have 30G+ missiles.
(Also the R-27ER is better than the Sedjil man…)
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I know you didn’t just say that that piece of garbage Sedjil is better than the R-27ER, the best SARH missile in the game by a long shot and king of BVR, at least until the Fakour. (still a much better missile overall because it can actually turn)
Sorry but just for that statement alone everyone should ignore anything you say about top tier.
And btw, the Mig-29 also has an all-aspect PD radar, all-aspect IR missiles that pulls much harder and an HMD.
No, Gaijin balances off cross-analysis with performance metrics as a secondary source.
Win rate is not going to be used by any analyst for balancing.
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Good question, especially when Phoenixes are better than aim-120’s in their intended BVR mode. It can’t be defeated by notch+chaff if the maneuver is not performed immediately at launch. And i don’t mean that last-second maneuvers dont work. i mean half-time.
It just ignores it all. So yes it’s an actual BVR missile that gives fox 3’s a run for their money while being at the abhorrent br of 12.3
lol AIM-120s are superior to AIM-54s in every way.
AIM-54s are the confirmed easiest ARHs to defeat. We don’t know about F90 at this time.
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never had a single aim 120 ignore a perfect notch+chaff. plenty of phoenixes tho
Skip to 54 seconds. All ARH can be notched and chaffed.
Never had an AIM-54 unintentionally hit me.