The F-117 has laser guided bombs and laser designators with great coverage, it shouldn’t be below 10.0 for GRB
Its main advantage over other aircraft is stealth, if you put it at a place where its main advantage is useless then all you have is a subpar aircraft. The only thing it actually beats its competitors at is looks. Either put it at a br where it’s main advantage is useful or don’t add it at all.
Exactly, and the first step toward a higher BR is to properly model it’s stealth ability
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Yeah I hope it’s WIP right now or else it’s gonna be a letdown
The problem is it’s a video game balanced on performance of the vehicle.
The last thing the game needs is yet another CAS aircraft that can strike ground targets with utter contempt from SPAAs.
At 10.0 and above it still has advantages, it’s just not untouchable. That means it’s in the correct BR.
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Please list the advantages it has over other planes in the 10.0 range. Because as far as I can find theres only one things its better at, that being stealth. And that doesn’t matter because again, the vast majority of spaa can lock over 6 km.
What good does that do if you can’t engage at that range?
Its whole schtick is stealth.
Please explain why it should be placed at a BR where it can’t be countered by SPAAs?
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Because every single other cas plane at the br its at is better than it in every way. Speed, maneuverability, armament, they have guns, missiles, countermeasures. The stealth doesnt matter at the br its going to be at, it has literally nothing special other than “oh you can only be locked at 5 km instead of 10.” Perhaps a different solution to the nighthawk’s problems would be spawn it at like 20,000 feet. Because planes spawn at what like 4000-5000 feet? And being higher could help it retain its stealth ability for longer, then I could see 10.0 being reasonable.
That’s not a very convincing argument that it should be lowered in BR to a point that nothing can counter it.
If you lower it to 9.7, that means that it will see threats down to 8.7.
You’re arguing because it’s a niche airplane, honestly a technology demonstrator it should be given preferential BR placement at a level so low that everything will struggle to deal with it. And have access to weapons that no one else gets at that BR
TLDR, it should be 10.0 or 10.3, where it has parity
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So what should be done about its rather weak performance compared to its contemporaries and issues with its main threat? Most spaa can lock it beyond the range of its main weapons, it cannot defend itself against them unless within spitball range, and if under fire it is essentially a sitting duck. Its going to end up suffering and then when people complain the response will end up being “dumb america main you just complain about everything.” But this time it will have serious issues that result in it suffering.
Tracking it, and engaging it are two very different things.
What SPAA systems can engage it from beyond its effective range?
Actually I stand corrected, I just saw a video of people testing out the F-117 vs different spaa, and yeah its actually kind of good. Could you tell me how I can close this topic because I was completely off with my assessment.
Yeah no difference
I don’t know how, other than letting a thread die a natural death.
But with the life of most average threads I think this will quickly fall to the side as the next topic comes up.
A-4E and other stuff already exists below the intended F-117 BR in GRB and those planes have offensive and defensive capabilities.
Nighthawk is nothing more than a 50% faster Ar 234B lmao. I can drop bombs with the Arado with same precision as with laser guided bombs. No business to be almost 4 full BR’s higher.
Nobody will play it at 10.0 I guarantee it.
IMO 8.7-9.0 is the most suitable BR for it in GRB.
Right now, night battle doesn’t exist in any sim mode, there was some in high tier bracket GF some time ago, guess they stopped it because some soviet tanks were put into western nation TT , and vice versa, worsening tk fest.
An A-4 does not have FLIR.
An A-4 does not have LGBs.
An A-4 isn’t Stealth.
The F-117 is fine where it’s at and sits in a great lineup.
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You think the 10.0 lineup is actually good? The bradley is gimped because of the TOW-2B not working like it should, the launcher cannot stay elevated on the move even though it can in real life. The 120S is also gimped because its an M60 hull at 10.0, its engine is bad, its ridiculously tall, it has zero armor. The lav is actually pretty good i’m not going to lie. The M1128 is a brick in terms of maneuverability, it has very little armor, it has barely any ammo compared to actual mbts, the slat armor often does literally nothing. The majority of the playerbase will end up bringing it up to 10.7, where almost every plane can do what it can and more, except for stealth of course.
The A-4 has defensive weapons, the A-4 has fire and forget guided bombs, the A-4 can dogfight, stealth doesn’t matter for the A-4 because you are facing very few missiles vehicles or early radar spaa, the A-4 can carry more than 2 pieces of armament, do you see what i’m getting at?
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We are still waiting for the M1128 to get its spall liner and for the Bradly to hopefully get something more substantial than a face shield.
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I think people focus to much on it having stealth. Yeah it has stealth but really ass stealth if it isn’t still WIP. That being said it should not go below 10.0 the TGP alone locks it at 10.
The only aa’s that can counter it are mouse guided ones, they don’t come in until 9.7, and they still don’t have enough range to counter the f117 if it just sits at its max range. The first one that could even pretend to counter it is the asrad at 10.3, but even that would struggle. Everything that can actually shoot it down at its max range is 11.7 and 12.0 which it can’t even face at 10.0. In a downtier the only things that will be able to kill it are other planes with guns.
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