To be honest, If gaijin were to make changes to hesh I don’t want it to be a glorified HE shell. So I wouldn’t want it’s overpressure reworked but instead once it hits, it creates way more spall. I feel like the amount of fragments that are created from the hesh is pretty pathetic. And it makes more sense because that’s how hesh works. Also to that one guy saying it’s a naval gun, it’s not. The 183mm L4A1 cannon is made for anti tank use. I have never seen any documentation of it being a naval cannon.
I think the only thing relating the L4 to naval cannons is maybe the size but that’s the closest I’ve seen it to any naval gun
Yeah, the L4 was built off a Artillery piece. Not a Naval gun.
I’m amazed it hasn’t kept dropping down like the German SPG’s/TD’s. Sturmpanzer II was originally 2.3 and now it’s 1.0. Pretty much suffers from the same issues. Kills anything it hits and dies to everything.
my guy have you tried playing the 120mm version on the top tier mbts og the UK? firstly you bearly if ever can kill mbts with it, spaas is a gamble and lights its not worth to load it as it either does only a hit or non pens
No…i used FV4005 for some time and it did kill most of what it hitted…hence not useless. It is slow and cumbersome…and frail…but the gun is good “enough” AFAIK.
Not my favorite vehicle by far…but not very different from most slow reload TDs…at least that was my point…
As to HESH in top tier…i admit i don’t know…and also don’t know if it is supposed to be like this…
Even with the fv i feel like it should obliterate a tiger 2 when hit on the ufp and not just take driver transmission
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Your feelings are correct but G@yjin disagrees
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I bet a KV-2 is now just as effective at 6.3 as the FV4005.
Faster reload and armor that protects it from autocannons and planes.
Works for me, always has. more often than not anyway.
idk, when an IS2 mantlet completley stops a 72KG hesh shell from doing anything i think the shell is a little bugged.
(not to mention most hesh shells seem to be missing in excess of 20% of their accurate penetration values & spall scabbing isnt modelled)
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HESH can’t deal damage to spaced armor.
The IS-2 mantlet is complex enough that hitting some parts will cause all spalling to get simply stopped, by armor behind it.
As long as armor plates or structure in general can’t be destroyed, and just internal modules, HESH will always be inferior to other types of shells.
My issue with many of these posts is that players posting them seem to think it only happens with whatever they are complaining about…
There are LOTS of kill shots blocked by mantlets, optics, whatever…it is not an occurrence only with HESH…
It is rare, but happens more than i would like…not particularly bad with FV4005 afaik…cusriously i get it more on AP brit vehicles…part of the game i guess, but annoying sometimes…hence not so mad at HESH (as it is worse on others IMHO)
I know that. However HESH is victim to war thunder crap hit registry more than any other shell from my own experience, gen 1 apds isnt as horrid as most say but theres a good reason for why HESH is so underutilised
Any other FV4005 enjoyers out there? Enjoy using it ingame.
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It’s a sad tank. Free kills for 85mm APHE.
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Free kills for anything. because it can barely kill anything its self.
I need to contact Bovingdons archives for documents on those guns tests to get get it fixed, its underperforming to hell and back.
HESH also is missing everything that makes HESH actually act like HESH.
I don’t see why the m55 is 4.0 but the FV4005 is 5.3, they are such similar tanks. In fact, I’d prefer the m55 since hesh is garbage.
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Hell gaijin has the FVs HESH underloaded by like 20kg. Its a 72kg shell, yet only like 17kg of that is explosvie filler, when it should be about 35-40% of the total mass of the shell.