Why Germany have the worst leopard variants

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Surely.

Just ignore that the same thing happened (and still happens) to 10.0-10.3 Russia due to the Turms. I believe that the same thing happen to Germany when the 2pl released too.

And ignoring valid points.

I say that the Abrams got a buff, but suddenly that buff means nothing because having the best firepower at top clear clearly doesn’t mean anything.

I say that the US has better SPAA than several other countries, suddenly those countries don’t matter at all and are considered irrelevant.

You can’t win against that guy.

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US is subpar → Nuh uh they got a buff to rate of fire → rate of fire doesn’t matter against small weak spots → omg he’s saying fire power is irrelevant and that’s definitely all he said

ADATS is the worst AA → Nuhuh there are worse ones → okay but they don’t matter as much because most of the team is made up of major nation players so the ADATS being bad puts the team built around US at a disadvantage → omg he’s saying those other countries don’t matter and that’s definitely all he said

It’s unfathomable how slimy you are.
Then again it’s dumb to expect people who depend on what’s essentially a cheat to debate anything honorably.

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As of right now I don’t at all consider Sweden a minor nation, considering it has 5 lines and pretty filled out as well, Japan and Isreal are minor nations currently (and kinda China depending on your definitions).

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fr.

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It still is due to the players count still small.
but it depends on you how you look at the definition of “Minor nation”

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Thats fair, but even so its vehicles and capabilities is pretty equal to that of a major one.

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Yes, it yes, I say Sweden are the luckiest of all compared to other minor nation
for tanks other minor nation use their own domestic tanks that Gaijin don’t even bother try fixing (Gaijin just give French Leopard 2 to shut their mount about Leclerc lol)
Sweden happens to use better version of German Leopard which is on big three and for some reason better armor than even 2A7V it pretty much like miracle since Gaijin rarely treat minor nation this good.

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I expected nothing less from the likes of you. We have consistently proven your points invalid yet you keep bringing them up, as if we’re gonna care. Hope you get off the copium soon!

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I’d consider it a primary minor nation along with France, China, and maybe the UK. Japan, Italy, maybe the UK, and Israel are true minor nations.

And it didn’t work since they don’t play France in order to play German tanks lmao

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really? for me it works very well since i see Leclerc like what? once in every 20 matches for me seem it work little too well same goes as Ariete that i never saw Ariete ever again after they got Leopard 2A7HU

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I see Arietes from time to time (my squadmate who plays Italy, outside that not really lmaoo)

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In this context it’s more about the count of players. If Sweden had enough players to regularly make up more than half the players in a team, then the “average” SPAA of a team would be decent with the Ito90M.

You’re clinically delusional. Nothing got proven wrong let alone addressed. You just said something that you thought sounded witty and somehow deluded yourself into thinking that invalidated the multiple points I made. It’s just weird.

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Tbf the chally 3 doesnt have good reload and its speed is bad lol

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Have you looked at its armour? It has none

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Germany should receive the variants that are German:

and perhaps squadron type vehicles such as the 2PL, 2HEL etc

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was basically the prototype 2A5 which was upgraded from a 2A4 chassis iirc.

There’s not actually a Leopard 2A5 KWS II, just that the KWS II was the second stage of the KWS program, like ICE is for aircraft, combat capability improvement.

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everyone read your topic

that’s the problem, that’s why you’re getting backlash

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remove the Strv 122 B+ then?

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Yes, that would only be consequent