Why F104c is 9.7?! It should be lower!

Fly towards your teammates then.

At 9.3 this would be the same BR as several Hunters, which are subsonic and those do not have good missiles.

I genuinely think someone with this forum ethics this bad should be reviewed by moderators. It’s genuinely miserable.

Also, Mirage 5F/Nesher and Mirage 5BA.

I know there are missile differences but, it is not huge. AFAIK, flight models are same anyway.

I’m sure you think that solves the entire issue

Pretty huge actually, magic 1s are very nimble with fast acceleration. 9Ds are basically “sniping” missiles, with more range. 9Js is the mid one that’s objectively worse than both.

Same way it solves a P-51 being chased by a Zero. He’s never reaching you. All you have to do is keep your speed up. Neither is getting a kill in that position, but one is controlling the engagement entirely.

In my own words I was not questioning the validity of statshark, I was questioning the application. I wouldn’t trust statshark to show how easy it is to kill F-104s in the same sense I wouldn’t trust statshark for instructions on making a sandwich.

I am sharing what I have seen ingame. You and a few others are sharing your personal struggles against a weak plane. One of these two metrics is definitively more trustworthy than the other.

What a disappointment of a response. If you want credibility, then don’t openly state that you want people to ignore your lies rather than challenge them.

The only part of this comparison that works is that the P-51 and F-104 are faster than the A6M and MiG-19. The thing you’re not including is that the MiG-19 is a lot better than the A6M FM wise in this comparison. In this situation neither jet is fully in control or rather they both are but in a locked state. The F-104 can do 1 degree turns only and can never re-engage until he does something more permanent to get the MiG-19 off, and the MiG-19 can break off at any time but doing so is a “win” for the F-104 while staying and chasing ties up his own jet but fully denies the F-104.

In the same metric, you’re sharing what you claim are to be from “other players in the game”. There’s nothing suggesting is is 1. more trustworthy, given your history of bad faith claims, and 2. the fact that the average player in WT is known to be horrible.

You were free to challenge them. You backed it up with nothing other than word salad. If so, you should leave instead of engaging in this pointless debate. For someone who frequents the use of “slander” claims, here you are, being “disappointed” someone didn’t engage in you more.

Seriously. You’re not going to agree with me anyways. You think everyone is slandering you. Then what exactly is driving you to stay here any longer? I have repeatedly suggested that you can disengage from this topic at any time you wish, and you see it as some sign of weakness? A great, shining example of bad faith commentation.

Ragebaiting, making you swear, calling mods to silence you.

I think he has engaged in more personal attacks than anyone here combined. Seriously, who replies to a “well you can just leave anytime” with another 10 “i don’t believe you” “you lie” “you slander me”?

Nah.

What’s the matter there? MiG-19 heavily compresses at high speed. Both Zero and F-6C will outclimb their respective opponents at lower speeds, but are unable to keep up at high speed. Neither will catch the other.

He’s not fully denying the 104C, that one has 300kph between his top speed and F-6C’s to play with. It is not a solo carry plane and you should not play it as one; but it is OBJECTIVELY undefeatable if it chooses to be, especially with its ability to avoid any IR missiles.

Yet another example “If you disagree you don’t have to reply to this topic” answered with another word salad full of personal attacks

Yeah i think we need mods on this one. I’m fed up. Every. Single. Time. I genuinely ask that he does not have to interact with me if he disagrees with me so much, he immediately jumps on the gun. again.

Like look at yourself. the last 5-10 replies of yours have been NOTHING of accusations unrelated to the topic, while mine has been respectfully asking you to cease.

The A6M has ONLY good turn rates and has a poor engine for its BR…the MiG-19 has one of the highest relative T/W ratios in game for its BR. Its FM is insane …

F-104 cannot play effectively while limited to tiny degree/s, giant radius turns. The map borders and teammates also are walls… I’ve said this already. F-104 also isn’t going 300kph faster. At sea level, where this is going to most often take place, he is only ~150kph faster without a giant acceleration period…

This has got to be the most toxic forum troll I’ve met.

You learn to not take their opinions seriously.

I had that moment a while back dealing with his other major bad take.

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Starting to think the way forward is acting like he doesn’t exist.

Pangolin Fan being Pangolin Fan :(

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And is getting outaccelerated by the 104C. If the MiG-19 is insane, what does that make the 104C?

Go to your airfield then. Airfield camping is all the rage nowadays.

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What is 1500 - 1200?

Only at near mach speeds

What is it when somebody blankly looks at top speed at a specific altitude and assumes an aircraft will always be going that speed, or that it is even achievable in a regular air rb match? A lot of words come to mind but none that I can say here