Why doesn't the M1A1 HC have M829A2

M829A1 is the highest penning round at 11.3.

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No it’s not some tank have DM53 or M338 at 11.3

M338 has less pen and what tank at 11.3 has DM53?

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Material isn’t a make or break factor here, the tip design is, and M829A2s tip design absolutely does not constitute it being anti-ERA capable. Although an argument could be made that it simply brute forces its way through (which it likely would if Russian armour was correctly coded).

Stepped (flat headed) tips mostly come in handy when you need ‘more power’ at higher angles of attack, since those are less likely to ricochet in comparison to oval or triangle types.

There also isn’t a single mechanism allowing a rod to defeat ERA, there are numerous and to name a few;

  • DM53s oval tip that is pretty long’ish in comparison to the main rod & is thinner than the main body, thus allowing it to make a hole in the ERA without setting off the explosive, it is basically fooling it into “thinking” that it isn’t a 120mm KEP hitting it, but a 25mm projectile.
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  • M829A3s sacrificial tip made out of softer material (steel), its job is to expand outwards (or mushroom) and make as big of a hole as possible so that after the ERA is set off, the main segment can pass through relatively undamaged.
  • L27A1s stumpy tip (basically the same design as M829A3s but shorter).

Another important factor is the width of the penetrator. The thinner it is, the more susceptible it is to breaking apart, this being the driving force behind “5th generation” APFSDS putting on size (diameter), for example;

  • DM53 is thicker than DM43 (Germany rejected the latter because of its relatively low efficiency against K-5 [only 40% chance of defeating a tank with K-5]).
  • M829A3s diameter growing by 15%(!) in comparison to M829A2.

oh hey youre the guy from the meme

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That because we know M1A1’s had M829A2 he’s saying the shell has wrong pen so yeah he need more information.

The Ariete

but has the best round and lower BR’s

Ariete has no armor tho

so do other tanks HSTVL has horrible damage and low pen and is 11.3 so it could be worse.
And the Ariete at 10.3 and the 120 DM33 which is the best shell at it’s BR.

This guy is hopeless

im having a pretty goddarn good laugh with this tbh, just pointing out this but the squad name fits well, the abrams its pretty good overall its a master of none but a jack of all trades
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How you haven’t give a explanation that used you brain. other then “it shouldn’t”

Bro the Arietes suck

Irs 11.3 tank that ain’t that bad it doesn’t need a top tier round

Have you even played it the only thing it’s good at is spamming tons of them and has the worst thermals at it’s BR just because you died to it because you over extended doesn’t mean it’s good enough to not get a working shell.

If you think it’s the worst thing then dude I don’t care what you said earlier you are just bad

the biggest case of skill issue i’ve seen in quite a while in the forums

that’s rich coming from a Russian main.

im not a russian main lol, cmon is not hard to guess

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Saying I have no skills just because I want a tank with a better shell says all I need to know about you.