Yes, the spall liner is on the UFP and most of the turret, but the Challenger 2 crew is way higher up than the M1 so they are harder to hit.
and as you can see even 8.3 can pen the UFP of the HC
That’s because the Ariete has no LFP armor and that’s because it’s wasn’t made for level ground, but for mountains and hilly Terrain of Italy. Also the Ariete hasn’t had an armor update in game, But got and upgrade irl in 2023 so they might make it better.
That’s a much smaller target the the whole M1’s UFP and turret ring.
i didn’t say the Abrams was the best in the game but its not bad
Still not what it should be now with spall liners. It will only get worse and soon Italy will get them. The only tank that won’t get them is the M1’s, so giving them a better shell will help.
No Leopard at 11.3 has spall liners
Why would the 11 3 Abrams a better dart
That’s because Germany doesn’t have any tanks that did at 11.3. The 2PL is an upgraded 2A4, so no, it wouldn’t have one.
To be fair Gaijin is just wrong on that. The upgrade to M829A3 is getting an anti-era tip. DM53 should already have it but if they did that it would make the T80Us and T73B3s pretty much so useless since DM53 would go right through the UFP
M829A2 is not an Anti-ERA tip.
Also the Leopard 2 s that have spall liners are only end of the line ones
HC doesn’t need a better dart
M829A2 doesn’t have a specific “Anti-ERA” tip but that doesn’t mean it can’t defeat ERA like K5 for example.
It’s defiantly dose most 11.3’s can hold their ground with 11.7 's the HC can barely fight most 11.3’s.
You are honestly just bad if you think the Abrams is useless bro
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Did you even read the start of the post? i can kill most tanks fine, but having to take precise shots and every one else can point and click is dumb.
Yes the if you shoot the turret neck of an Abrams it dies but to say it’s useless is just wrong. It’s by no means the best tank in the game though I wouldn’t even say top 5 but it’s not useless at all
The problem is that when fighting Russian tank I can’t pen them most of the time even though I should and even if i didn’t die on the first shot my loader and turret ring are dead so i can’t even fight back.
Yes I agree that Russian tanks are a pretty dumb but like I said before that doesn’t mean the Abrams is Useless like I said before.
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It’s not entirely useless, but should still get shells that reliably work on vehicles of it’s BR.