Why doesn't the M1A1 HC have M829A2

Im pretty sure A3 has an Anti era tip but they won’t model the tip

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Almost everyone shoots center mass on Russian tanks, since you can’t reliably kill 2 crew members with one shot, and you have to hit the ammo or the fuel tank in front of the engine, since that one explodes almost every time And so you go through the drivers Hach.

im not a dataminer i would have to ask Gsazbi for that, and its not like you provide proof either

“Gaijin says it dosent”

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gaijin or the numerous investigations and archives with demonstration of the anti ERA tip found on the M829A3?

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I have not encountered the problem you mentioned. As long as I penetrate the Russian tanks, they will explode
At least it doesn’t exist on T80B.
Perhaps encountered on BVM and T90M,only fossils ERA can bring this effect

You either got Gaijin’d or you’re aiming extremely poorly. The T-80B has among the weakest armour of any T-72/64/80/90 series vehicle, and it’s hull is already vulnerable to equal BR opponents, let alone M829A1-armed tanks.

And yet the M1 is still an infinitely superior tank.
Besides, the US also have the M1A1 only 0.3 BR above the T-90A dispite the M1A1 being MASSIVELY, and I do mean GIGANTICALLY superior.

Being at least twice as fast as anything else is a massive advantage, one that can be used to defeat much higher BR opponents.

With a T-80B it doesn’t really matter as it’s hull is paper mache against M829 or M829A1.

Huh? I think you’re confused here.

I’m asking you guys to prove something you claimed is true, I never claimed it’s false, I just want to see evidence for it before I believe it.

You need to explain this to Gaijin though, not me. I’m not the one that needs convincing on this topic.

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Still a horrible idea but whatever floats your boat

The M1A1HC with M829A2 is effectively an M1A2 without a commander sight.

Have fun at 11.7

M829A2 is already an “anti ERA shell”, though it’s yet to be implemented due to shortcomings in the pen calculator

Whether it is or isn’t seems to be debated endlessly.

From the sources I can find, M829A2 is essentially M829A1 with a stepped tip, improved velocity and improved alloy properties.
I don’t think any of these aspects make it anti-ERA capable per se.

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M829A3 has the anti ERA tip not M829A2 so yeah artic it’s wrong here

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It was quoted as being able to defeat K-5 / 4S22 explicitly. Its cap design points directly to the capability of defeating reflecting plates.

The tip and material composition are major factors, and the tip is arguably the one thing that must be defeated (unless you’re Zaslin) on a dart.

Reading @UnHolySausage’s reply, I may have come to the conclusion that I am unimaginably stupid
Got the models mixed up

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Nah man You just confused them it’s fine

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All I’m saying is about how useless the Abrams armor is giving it, M829A2 would make it able to counter tanks like the T-80U. Let’s say its front plate is angled like when it comes around a corner, M829A1 will get stopped by the armor. But even if I angle at all, it will go right through my armor. Also, you’re downplaying how useful the commander’s sight is. With it, you don’t have to reveal your whole tank to find the enemy.

just kill the tank with M829A1 you don’t need A2

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Have you even played top tier? You don’t always have the ability to stop and aim at a weak spot, like when a T-80U comes flying around a corner and when you have to pick up the slack of the M1A1 AIM/Click-Bait swarm and have to watch 2 points. Also, the Abrams armor is paper thin on the front because Gaijin has incorrectly modeled it, so you have to react quickly.

no

i do i play the Challenger 2

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bc Gaijin doesn’t want to.

So you get a spall liner which the Abrams doesn’t get making the Challenger 2 more survivable then the M1A1 HC. Also tell people tank and shell you use when giving a picture for all I know your using heat.

it isn’t the spall liner is only on the UFP and turret and doesn’t protect the ammo which the abarms ammo is protected

So still better than the arietes, merkava, and leclerc

Also this looks quite a bit like Dm53 being used or maybe 3BM60 although my refrence is the ariete which is well paper