Only if you are Germany or Soviets.
If you are against both nations, you cannot use CAS and cannot defend against CAS.
The new SPAA added for Israel, China, Japan and Sweden are weaker than the Pantsir.
Italy, France and Britain were given nothing.
KH-38MT as an example, it being a png on a brochure and it receiving GNSS because of a brochure
F-16AJ being from a brochure
the list just goes on
Japanβs Tan-Sam Kai having a unholy amount of bugs
Yup.
Soviets getting KH-38MT even though it never existed IRL but nope cant add MMW because people are dumb and will fire at teammates
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Yep. From what iβve seen, only German Mains are happy this major and even then, they are waiting on bug reports to be fixed and took a huge amount of battle to get them to acknowledge that IRIS-T SLM was not the same as the IRIS-T SLS
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Even just today in SRE, I saw an IRIS-T killing a friendly Su-30SM, quite literally on the runway (he just spawned in)
very balanced btw
GNSS does not allow IR AGMs to be launched without a lock in War Thunder.
Iβve already tested this once on dev, and on 3 separate versions of live including the live server prior to the major update. GNSS launches only work on GNSS and laser-GNSS munitions at this time.
Magic 2 is its current agility in single plane.
AGM-114Ls can go through smoke against moving targets as well as have a higher TK potential than IR munitions.
Soviets lack a SPAA that can deal with high-altitude opponents. Only USA, Israel, and Germany have SPAA capable of dealing with high-altitude aircraft currently, though this will change in the coming updates.
Pantsir, SLS, etc are weaker than the SPAA of USA, Israel, and Germany.
As I said many times: I support adding weapons when the environment is ready for them, and considering IR AGMs were blatantly OP until this major update, radar AGMs would be blatantly OP as well as high-TK potential if implemented even prior to LOAL being finished and ready for War Thunder.
Patience is a virtue.
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Just like every AGM losing lock whenever they pass next to another vehicle (which also has a higher TK potential)
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I guess being able to spawn camp players on the AIRFIELD = Weaker
or Fire missiles without a RWR ping
Not the full context. You can easily predict where the enemy is within smoke making vikhrs hard to defeat where as with the hellfire even if you know where the enemy is within smoke, thereβs nothing you can do to hit it.
This is also excluding thhe weaknesses of SALH. To say that Vikhrs and Hellfires can be defeated by the same thing is disingenuous.
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Wellβ¦ I have seen a clip of KH-38MTs being used in this manner soβ¦
Guess your game is bugged or you are doing something wrong.
Not if its the smoke with chaff.
and no they dont. Thats just a myth spread by people who want an excuse to not add MMW. Why a LOBL MMW would be any more likely to kill a friendly than a IR LOBL weapon is just stupid. Dont want to TK with MMW, dont fire it at a teammate. Whats next, remove unguided bombs and rockets from the game because they can cause TKs?
Someone I was squadding with yesterday got 2x TKs with artillery because they drove into the artillery area even after warning them he was calling it in. I guess remove artillery from the game as it has a high TK potential.
Even LOAL MMW like Brimstones, can ID the target and therefore can avoid friendlies and the radar on the Apache im fairly certain has IFF.
THey have the Pantsir.
Only Germany can defend against KH-38MTs.
No they arent. Pantsir is still number 2.
And the βenvironmentβ will never be ready for them if people keep making up excuses to not add them in teh first place.
Why add Smoke with Chaff to the game if there is no MMW to defend against. It would be stupid.
and there is nothing to model. just make MMW be blocked by smoke. Done. Next.
Why? Brimstone 1 has way less range than KH-38MT and AASM and is slower than both. LOBL MMW Brimstone would barely be top 3 and only if they dont limit the amount that can be carried.
Again, total myth
again, its acceptable to add MMW missile without MMW but isnt acceptable to add MMW without LOAL? brimstone and AGM-114L have LOBL modes of operation
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Toggleable LOAL and LOBL modes would be a pretty cool feature
It would be, but if they are really that worried about anyone else getting LOAL. Then just limit them to LOBL.
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ADATS, 2S6, Rolands [most not all], ITO-90M, etc. >4 year old feature.
@Morvran
Pantsir has never fragged my CAS platforms when I played them, even post-buff because AGM-65s out-ranged them
Now SLM, Spyder, and SLAMRAAM out-range IR AGM launchers.
Start inventing new ways to do CAS in ground; I already did: GNSS bombs.
Havenβt gotten around to it yet because Iβve been getting F-2A and Mirage 3S, but itβs on my to-do list to learn.
Also do you think itβs a myth that FAB-5000 has a higher TK potential than FAB-100?
Do you think itβs a myth that IR AGMs in general have a higher TK potential than laser guided weapons?
Radar can be launched without target identification. LOAL is indiscriminate OR tank-shape based [boy I wonder if there are friendly tanks that look like Leopard 2sβ¦].
Dude, I get youβre a fan of Brimstones, because Iβm a fanboy of Brimstones myself. That does not mean we should be demanding skilless CAS gameplay just because SPAA finally can threaten us.
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Oh Gee wizz Never thought a very large bomb can do a big enough radius to TK
Nah I just like longbow apacheβs and they deserve to get some love. Since they are just slowly dying out into redundancy, brimstones are weird to me
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They were nerfed. No longer really an option with small calibre bombs. GBU-39 for example has been ahistorically rendered unusable.
Who said we were. We were asking for a weapon system to be added to the Tornado GR4 and Typhoon that would at bare minimum equal the performance of the AGM-65. replace the ahistorical Brimstone 1s with correct Brimstones 2s and then we might have something that can compete with KH-38MT.
Im not sure why 1 nation having skilless CAS gameplay for the past 18 months is considered fine, but the other 9 nations wanting something even half as good is considered completely unreasonable.
Personally they are usable but VERY niche
I was chatting with a few SB guys and they basically cant use them anymore because they just miss static targets.
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I have yet to use 39βs in SB but I can imagine its hell