Both of them don’t get access to M9718 with is much much better than the dm63 lol, but i don’t think they really needed it that much and not rather have them be raised up in br.
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class 3 p never fired dm33 either, and I don’t really have any sources on if MTTD did firing tests
right now the rooikats are a bit squished and it could help britain get a higher tier light tank
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I think a higher BR as long as it has enough firepower could improve the british tree
Olifant Mk.2 fires 105mm DM63, with the same reload speed.
It would be more like 9.7, as it would then be better than the premium rooikat, but not too much of an extent.
Which isn’t a light tank.
@crashing_rhinos
It was confirmed the gun can fire DM33 though.
Not sure why you want the MTTD to be 10.0.
@SanguineSerpent
Again, not a light tank.
Y’all just want to nerf the MTTD.
We don’t know if it fired DM23 either. I’m not sure how much mockup it was. We don’t know anything, we don’t know how fast it’s autoloader was (hence it’s coicidently got the exact same reload speed as an aced manual loading L7/M68 in game), we don’t know what gen thermals it had (so it gets 1st in 2006), we don’t know if what look susiciously like blowout panels worked (so in game they dont).
I mean, why not.
Issue would be BR placement, because it would have to sit somewhere between Striker (RB BR of 10.0 with M900 and 7.5s reload) and Radkampfwagen (RB BR of 9.7 with DM33 and 6.7s aced reload and no thermals).
TAM 2C with same shell and similiar mobility sits at 10.0, while Olifant Mk.2 sits at 9.3 with same shell (but Olifant is much slower when compared to roikat).
For me, if it ever gets DM63, put it to 10.0. Go-karts have the mobility for flanking, anything lower and its gona be same situation as with WMA301 few years back.
I don’t think it would be that bad at 10.0 it would have the same firepower as the TTD and due to its mobbility would still be viable imo
don’t think gajin would bother either
Nerf the MTTD? You are saying that it should go to 10.0 if it gets DM63, whilst I am saying it should to 9.7 instead.
If you want a light tank that fires DM63, there’s the Tam 2C that’s at 10.0, and it’s arguably better than the MTTD with DM63.
You are nerfing the MTTD.
MTTD is better at where it is.
I agree, but I don’t mind it moving to 9.7.
The only thing you can pair the MTTD at 9.0 is the Chieftain Mk 10, but you can uptier it to 9.3 to have the Olifant Mk.2, VFM5 (kinda mid), and Khalid / Rooikat 105 (if you want to spend money on a lineup).
There are no 9.7s that the MTTD can pair up with, but at 10.0, you have the Challenger Mk.2 and TTD, which is also okay.
Either way, I wouldn’t mind it too much, although I would also prefer if it just stays at 9.0, or gets DM33 and moves up to 9.3, where the Rooikat 105 is already at.
this is true, though a bad argument, since we have many prototypes, even those who didn’t fire any munition, in game.
It is more Gaijin balancing with giving stuff munitions or not, than any historical fact.
only add it if it used it. otherwise it’s a no from me - and i am kinda British main.
DM63 has higher pressures that older guns cannot withstand.
On top of that, ruining an already mid light vehicle when VFM5 exists along with future light vehicles that are better.
Not needed.
What future light vehicles britian has that would be better at higher tier and not just a side grade to 9.0/10.0 at best? The VMF5 lack of thermals and good zoom really hold it back, other than size it’s not much better than the 105 or mttd, mttd is also quite bit more survivable than either of them due to crew and ammo placement despite having less crew
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Is it possible to buff reload time and ammo to make it to 10.0? with 10-12rpm with DM63 is absolutely worth 10.0 even 10.3
Reload time for the MTTD is based on the autoloader, so in this case there’s not much wiggle room around what it was IRL. To be clear, I don’t know if the current reload is accurate, I can find next to no information on the MTTD online.
IMO, give it DM33, let it swap lineups with the VFM5. VFM5 would be perfectly balanced at 9.0 even with DM33, MTTD would make a better 9.3 since it has gen 1 thermals.
Honestly, a production variant at a later point in the tech tree would be lovely. Two variants for different spots and lineups would be much appreciated. Same thing with the TTD, would love to see a later variant with the 120mm. (Would also love to see it get the 3rd gen thermals it’s missing)