F-14D any day now
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If they dare fix the phoenix to its real-life stats… Man. It would give them something to ACTUALLY cry about. They think the Fakour is bad now…
Man, I just wonder
Why this ‘US cope’ thread from March is still alive and kicking at the end of April…?
I mean, the OP who cried about AIM-120C. :|
Sorry if it sounded offensive @ItzMikeyzWRLD-psn , @BACKRAGE44428
IDK im not involved in most of this i honestly dont care much for F18 or SU30 F14D better and dont worry i know your talking about that
I don’t know. These types of threads don’t do anything but cause trouble and toxic opinions to rise. Like ragebaiting, I’d like this type of thread banned.
You’re good @Stockholm_Blend :) I feel the same way
“I cant AFK climb while getting something from my fridge anymore”
This, the only people who the original 54s hit were either AFK or partially braindead.
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Match presence is a very important thing. Simply it existing allowed the F-14 to remain uncontested due to forcing players to defend in some way. This is especially important at the start of the match when you want the best position possible.
The act of dodging it puts the enemy at a worse position. Being able to force most of an enemy team to defend drastically increases the chance of your team winning, and I wish more people realized that.
Don’t forget when aim54 was added, we had barely usable RWR. When it comes to maneouvring, you need to know the location of missile so that you dont prematurely bleed all your speed and become food for the missile. When the motor burns out, and with bad rer, it becomes impossible to do this
average american main
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like the aim 9x an aim120c would be too strong currently and they’re waiting to add it
They don’t, because they don’t have to do much. Simply turn to the side after dumping all their missiles. 0% chance they get hit since they are still 30-35km from any enemy and at least 1km above them, unless they have F15Es on the other side.
Well they can. Just limit drag all over when that is what they did all the time.
Which allows even easier dump and run. Not great to the game play.
So did the F-14A.
No one is launching missiles at 30km away in the hope to get a kill. Players have learned to defeat missiles even up high. It is a blessing when you see a Typhoon or F-15 dump 120s at anything over 25-20km the chances of getting a kill are low.
F-15E doesnt turn very well at high alt anymore.
They can but then they would need to artificially increase motor burn to give 120 it’s performance or it would very much end up a poorer version of the R-77.
You mean like the meta is now? R-77-1 and MICAS dominate because 120s cannot do what they can.
then you pair a 120 with a missile like an Aim9M and close range high aspect fights your weapon systems are ineffective.
Sorry to say but if we are trying to get to real world performance:
There is not a version of R-77 that is superior to it’s 120 equivalent.
They don’t have to, the fact that we are all forced to notch knowing AMRAAM can hit u is enough. If u are, say a J10 or SU30SM, u have just: 1. wasted half ur chaff, 2. become a easy target to the jets rating on the floor rapidly approaching to within 10km. So in return, we also have to rat, meaning AMRAAM spams are even less contested. Also they don’t have to dump 8 or 6 missiles, 4 is enough, since there are more than 1 F15E per side, the rest can be thrown once people are directly below them, in which case good luck getting away, ur RWR might not even go off.
The only thing effective in that range is R73, MICA is too slow waiting for the lock. So u are complaining about getting the same missile as everyone else but USSR?
Similarly PL15 and Meteor can leave F15s hopeless for the past decade. Not a valid argument, if that is not what u wanted.
So the F-15E dumps half it’s payload at 30km and you dont see that as a win win?
Yes missiles have to be defended even ones launched at 50km.
Su-30 also has 12 R-77-1 and the best/joint best radar in game.
Positioning is important.
Magic 2/MICA/PL8B/R-77-1 cam also be used in that scenario.
9M and 120s cant.
Point was R-77 has always been behind AMRAAM. This isnt US biased this is a fact.
Yes of course PL-15/Meteor/JTAM are all going to be better they are a different generation of missile.
How? Because they can force u to notch without having any worries?
Well, the F15E/EFs can position themselves where no one else can.
Not when AMRAAM can’t. Only MICA is probable. Clearly u haven’t used many of these, and just looked at statcard. PL-8B can not turn for an entire km, Magic 2 is probable but its effectiveness is not higher than that of AIM9M. R-77-1 can barely do what 9M can’t. As u said, positioning is important, if u can’t use ur weapons to ur advantage, what can I say? SI
Ok so you defend and then have 12 missiles left. They have 4 and have to be more selective.
Being fast is and high is great, but it also as mantioned earlier makes your ops missiles more dangerous, you have less time to defend and with only 6 120s on Typhoon you really cannot afford to waste them. I wont shoot until im close enough I think it will get a kill (unless im BVR jousting)
120 doesnt pull aswell there is also a slight tracking delay.
Magic 2 accelerates faster off the rail it is better at closer ranges. R-73 is the in game HOB but R-77-1 and MICA can do cool things when used at close range
PL-8B has had some buffs it certainly seems better than it was with J-11B putting them to good use.
Thats the issue isnt it you cant always choose when to use your weapon systems. 120 is a good missile but if players are getting closer it’s lethality drops off
You have seen my stat card I would trade the Typhoons payload for 12 R-77-1
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hey buddy flagging my comment may hide the ugly truth but anyone can check statshark and see how little ground your skill check comment holds when youre not that good yourself, peace.
lmao wut??