Why does the mig 25 foxbat spawn at only like 650 kph in air rb where planes like the mig 21 spawn supersonic?
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artificial nerf
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I’m not sure but i think the standard is like something around 75% of wing rip speed at the altitude that the spawn is.
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Something along these lines is correct ☝️ The game uses a % of each plane’s wing rip limit/mach limit for the altitude that spawn occurs at.
@SGT_RAVEN_7 In real life, at low altitude, the Mig-25 has a very low Mach Limit/Wing Rip limit. The behavior in game is exactly as it should be. You can go look up the real life info for the Mig-25 if you wish. Look for its Mach limits versus altitude. It can only get up to its Mach 2-3 top speeds at high altitude, never at low altitude, and 100% never near sea level.
It’s low alt mach limits are much lower than almost all other supersonic aircraft.
mig25 rips at around 1300kmh IAS which should mean at least 950kmh air spawn (75%) not 650
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950 / 1,300 = 0.7307 =
73% of Mach Limit at spawn. If these numbers are correct.
Ok, that would be ~73%, effectively 75%. What are the %'s of other planes? I have seen multiple other threads taking issue with its spawn speed, but I have not seen anyone dig into the full details and compare the relative % of mach limit at spawn for comparable aircraft.
If there is a big discrepancy between the Mig-25 and other aircraft, let’s get the exact details and make a bug report 👍 But vague numbers and “feelings” will just be ignored if a bug report is made without exact & precise information. (Not saying you are going off of feelings here, but we need to avoid any and all emotions/feelings when making bug reports. Quickest way to get them closed.)
Sounds like a bug then, possibly a miss in mph vs kph perhaps?
650mph is roughly 1000kph so that would make sense.
Are you sure it’s not in mph?
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I’d agree if there weren’t so many exceptions and wildly different spawn speeds. To me it seems more arbitrary than anything else.
It isn’t.
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I would not be surprised! Just like I said, I remember seeing another thread (I’ll post a link if I can find it) and the peeps there didn’t end up digging deeply into the numbers 😂 I will be here to click “I have the same issue” if we/you get a bug report made that can prove that the Mig-25’s spawn speed is slower than it should be 👍
looking at su30 and f18 mach 1.22 spawn
the f18 literally spawns with its wings already shaking iirc
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@Pvt_Wade @Ion_492 @SGT_RAVEN_7
Found it. Probably a good idea to move over there since it’s older, and will pull everyone already there back into the conversation:
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There has been some previous issues with planes erroneously spawning with to high speed to the point of the wings ripping after half a second, so that shouldn’t be that hard to report.
There are some exceptions like the F-14 due to the wing sweep always starting at fully extended forcing it to have a lower spawn speed if i remember correctly.
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