MiG-25PD spawn basics bug

so, currently the MiG-25PD is the fastest aircraft ingame (reaching Mach 3), but by no reason, the air spawn doesn’t give it Mach 1 start speed like all other jets at the same BR.
it needs to be fixed since MiG-25PD takes a lot of time to accelerate due to the massive weight of the aircraft, and not starting the match with a good speed is a huge disadvantage in this case.

hope this gets fixed and makes the plane easier to be played.

11.0 aircraft spawn at a velocity relative to their rip speed at the altitude
Second, MiG-25 being a bit slower than other aircraft is good for you, if you’re playing it correctly, since after the major duel above the clouds, the remaining 25s have full range of the furball below them, the only detriment is notching, but thats whatever

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never happened to me with any 11.0

but it’s a heavy aircraft, and most of the supersonic planes that have airspawn spawn at Mach 1, something the Foxbat lacks by no reason.

Im going based off of the Jaguar and F-4EJ airspawn, the MiG-25 cant spawn at mach because mach at spawn altitude is really close to it’s rip speed, and there would be a lot more immediate deaths at the beginning of the match

If it spawned higher, close to like 10k, it could safely spawn at mach, but it cant at the current spawn altitude

Like i said, airspawn speed is relative to the rip speed at their altitude (which also, is in IAS not TAS, which is why the MiG-25 can hit mach 3)

Also, while a case of different experirnces, i find its acceleration and climbing to be pretty high

*also, its not just 11.0 aircraft, i forgot to remove that after i fixed it

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just a stupid player wouldn’t climb in a MiG-25PD…

i still remember a WW2 attacker had a bug of Mach 2 airspawn speed and it didn’t rip it’s wings instantly

IRL the Foxbat has a relatively low wing rip speed at low altitude. So, if the spawn speed is based on wing rip speed at the spawn altitude, it would make perfect sense that its spawn speed is “so low”.

Even though it is a Mach 3 interceptor, it can only attain those speeds at high altitude. I don’t know it’s exact rip speed at sea level, but I would not be surprised if there were multiple other planes currently in the game that can go faster than the Foxbat at sea level.

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it has bad acceleration under Mach 1 but after u reach Mach +1 (1.20/1.30) it’s basically a rocket that can climb at 30º to 10000m.

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u can reach Mach 1.10 at sea level before ripping ur wings
exactly Mach 1.10

at the altitude u spawn with airspawn in public matches, it’s very able to spawn at Mach 1 without ripping it’s wings.

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Oh that’s quite low then lol. Yeah, lots of planes currently in WT that can beat that at sea level then.

Well, I can’t check or test anything right nor, not at computer. I just know from a documentary that the Foxbat was/is very limited at lower altitudes.

still enough to actually make it spawn at Mach 1 imo, and there’s a huge difference between 0-100m and 1000-2000m

Uhh

The MiG-23, for example, is faster at sea level than the MiG-25 can handle

I can agree there, but the game spawns you at around M0.73, so in my experience, it gets there fast, but that changes for every player

Once again though, just because an aircraft can handle it, doesnt mean its safe, and that every player will be aware enough of it

No aircraft spawns at its top speed for spawn alt, and many reach their top for the alt pretty quickly, including the 25

I don’t know any exact % of max speed comparisons right now. IF it turns out to be a lower % than comparable other planes, make a bug report/ suggestion and I will add likes to help bring attention to it 👍

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i always start climbing when i spawn in the Foxbat, so im usually climbing at 700/800kph

I recommend staying straight until M1 before climbing then, it can hit mach in a climb a little less easily as in a line

where can i compare it/get the data to compare it

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Uhhhhh, this is outside of my expertise. Maybe Statshark has those charts? I’ve seen people post those fancy line charts, does anyone here know where they come from?

We just need a chart to plot max mach numbers on vertical axis, and altitude on horizontal. I think that would look best anyway. Add in the planes -1 and +1 BR around the Foxbat.

The Spawn speed might have to be collected manually.

Also, for reference, this is why:



IAS is what matters, not Mach

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this works?
IAS at 2000m is 1467km/h
TAS is 1624km/h

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Ah that’s nice. I think there still might be one/site where you can add multiple planes at once. I have not messed with these charts myself, just looked at what others have posted.

I also don’t know if the game is using IAS or max mach to calculate spawn speed @ altitude. I’m ignorant on most of the specifics here lol.

me too.
whatever i can add more planes if u want