Why does the M1A1 clickbait kinda actually suck

Argue with yourself buddy, there’s thousands of complaints about it. Don’t have to play it to know how powerful it is. BMPT 60% win rate.

Im not saying its not powerful. Or that its not annoying to face. It is incredibly strong for the BR it is at (and likely would still be quite good at top tier). I also havent played it myself. It could go to top tier simply because of how survivable it is acting like a bullet sponge taking out barrels and immobilizing for its allied mbts to take the distracted targets out. But your point was that its the single best tank in the entire game. Quite likely its one of the best tanks BR for BR- but it still wont be better than those top tier mbts imo.

What an astounding argument you have made. You’ve convinced me, move the clickbait to 10.3 immediately!

I’ve gotten better at dealing with them but being blinded and breach taken is a horrible feeling. I think they could easily handle 13.0. I’m not going to argue for it though. I don’t like taking away other peoples fun toys. I find it ironic the Falcon SPAA got nerfed as it would have been it’s perfect nemesis side on at least and with it’s own paper armour. Anyway is what it is. night o/

both lfp and drivers port 1 shot the BMPT like any other russian MBT??

Good sir, YOU are the one spreading missinformation here.

And how come you know this, have you ever played with Leopards before or did you even tested it?

Or are you just talking with zero experience.

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Leopard2A4 does uses B-Tech armor which is worse than D-Tech model on 2A5/A6/A7V.

Cant believe you dont even know this…

I think the 2a5/2a6/2a7 have more armor even without the arrow heads, but Im pretty sure it cant stop dm53. I can be wrong

Starting from 2A5 all Leopard model does have D-Tech turret armor which stops DM53 even from point blank without arrowheads.

Im positive it can still go through, besides you didnt even know the wedges can be shot off.

Also, the D tech you mentioned is the wedges themselves

Unlike you i do play those tanks and i already knew wedges could come off.

And im positive you’re clueless person.

Wedges are additional armor and they called Arrowhead, D-tech is the codename for internal armor itself yet you dont even know the difference, gosh trying to talk with clueless arrogant people is really something else.

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Funny considering the previous quote.

So what do you achieve by playing those tanks, exactly?

The player shooting the leopard in its cheek also would know.

Same logic as I told you before in a previous post.

“The MMA fighter can not know his enemies weakness because he isnt the enemy himself, even if fighting said enemy”

That statement was for the part where he claimed turret armor becomes weaker after arrowhead falls off, apparently you cant even understand what you’re reading. Good to know.

And how many times have you penetrated those cheeks with DM53? Since you dont have any tank that has DM53 you simply cant prove your point by experience nor testing while me and my friends tested this empty claim countless time and proved that its wrong.

Sorry but i cant take someone’s word seriously when he doesnt even know the difference between internal armor and arrowheads and claims Arrowheads are D-tech armor technology while in reality they were developed to increase armor protection without changing internal base armor technology.

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“They dont”

M829A2 is near identical to DM53.

Cant take your word seriously taking in account all the previous blabber you’ve spat out and then vanished from the argument after someone pointed it out.

Instead of continiuing, admit you were unclear in your statement, and sometimes use common sense, thanks.

Yet you failed to show me single test where you managed to penetrate those cheeks with those rounds.

Where exactly and how come this does effect our conversation by any means?

There is difference between not chasing pointless conversation and talking without any information on XYZ vehicles which what you’re doing right now.

You dont even know the armor technology on German Tanks and claimed that 1980 model 2A4 shares the same protection level that 2A5/A6/A7V has, not to mention you claimed that Arrowheads are part of D-Tech armor technology which has nothing to do with internal armor development by the way.

Im not the one who talks about German Armor Technology with zero knowledge here buddy, instead of acting arrogant try to learn more before making any clueless claims.

Anyway it seems taking you seriously and answering you was waste of time, come back once you learn more about Leopards Armor technology.

Neither have you even tried to prove you cannot?

You tend to say blabber, and vanish once someone points it out, simple.

But with zero common sense

Burden of proof is on you buddy, you’re the one who claimed turret armor can be penetrated but if you want we can test it together, invite me to game and lets prove it, if you dare ofc.

Is this the way of saying ‘‘i dont know what im talking about so i will try to derail our main conversation subject as much as i can’’? If so i will not waste more of my time.

Another pathetic attempt to try to cover your ignorance i see, sadly its not gonna change the truth.

You have zero knowledge about German Armor technology and making empty claims based on nothing.

Come back once you understood the difference between Arrowheads and internal armor on Leopards please.

So are you saying that all Russian MBTs should go down to 11.7, or have the M1A1 move up to 12.7?
Should the M1A1 be the same BR or higher than the T-80BVM?