my mistake lol
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Explain how
Private Property Rights and all that. I’m acutely aware.
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Voice chat can be quite annoying specially with warthunder’s community
Perhaps you’d like to venture a guess why someone would start a thread titled:
Why does no one talk in this game? Feels sterile
Or were you here by mistake and thought this was a different thread
And that’s all well and good. Nobody’s forcing you to use it, after all. We’re all free to talk, or not, as we see fit.
Saying “karma is a b***h” to someone you oppose, in public as opposed to private, is just the New Age hippy-dippy way of saying “God will strike you down for your heresy.” Or better yet, “I pray for your soul.” It’s passive-aggressive lameness (and yes, a “microaggression”) when Fundie Xians do it in a public space, and it’s lameness when the fake Buddhists do it too.
One can believe there has been significant social change in the world recently, good and bad, without believing in, as you put it, “an external entity” that “infects” us. Come on. No one’s imposing sterile chat on War Thunder. People here just don’t want to talk to each other. That’s this game’s micro culture and the reasons for that are many and complex and can’t be boiled down to one external evil force.
I mentioned Final Fantasy XIV before. Everyone says hi at the start of a match, people report bad language in chat, and the company encourages them to do so, and I have played for literally months every day and never ran into someone abusing someone else in chat the way I see it done in WT every single night. So no, it’s not “just how it is.”
You can point to possible reasons for that, like the gender balance of the game, or the fact the servers are segregated by language, so it is much more possible than WT to get into a discussion with someone new, or the significantly better chat functionality overall, or the game creator’s very public stance that he wanted the game to be for everyone and he has no problem turning down the money of anyone who feels different.
What you can’t point it at is that the group is any less competitive than WT, or on a different scale (active and total players of both games are roughly the same worldwide) or the fact it is paid at the high levels (and F2P largely early on), or the game’s age (both 10 years old, roughly), or it being cross-platform. So it is possible to create a game like that, where people don’t feel comfortable “trash talking” strangers on War Thunder’s scale. War Thunder’s microculture is the way it is because the people who play it and make it generally like it this way. We’re just not a talkative bunch, and there’s also a lot of man-babies who act out.
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Are you saying no behaviors are bad? So reporting people is fine!
As for propaganda, you keep trying to fit me into your stereotypes based on propaganda…
I wasn’t talking about discussions there, you misrepresented what I said. I don’t report people for discussing the merits of a new vehicle in game even though it may be perceived as clutter, I said berating, racial slurs and other bannable offenses, and I also said that I usually only do it when they insist on doing it repeatedly.
Not voice chat, not quick radio… Actual text chat in matches.
Socializing is dying in many games. Automated report systems grow in their influence year by year. There’s one political party that sides with censorship and “cancelling” people for “wrong think.” I will not “come on.” It’s a real thing that’s happening.
that’s just how it is
I was referring to the nature of these threads to be high participation count. lol I’m not saying every game shares the same culture as far as insults or whatever. Sorry for the confusion but it was a direct reply to someone. I should have used some quotes or been more specific.
@Husar
Huh? I’m saying 99% of the time when you see behavior that you think is bad and warrants a report, it is not actually bad behavior. You’re just conditioned to think it is bad so the environment you’re in gets destroyed. It’s like your mind has been infected by a virus and will wreak havoc on all the environments you enter.
I only see some of it as clutter.
Whatever, this is your personal take on it. That shouldn’t warrant you having the ability to get people removed from the entire game.
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Absolutely.I am glad somebody gets it.
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As long as people can report each other for “saying something bad,” we are not free to use it, which is why this thread exists in the first place.
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Such is the nuance that created this thread - The lack of freedom, aswell as the disrespect of freedom, in regards to speech.
That’s just your opinion as well, multiple countries War Thunder operates in disagree and I doubt WT wants to stop operating in these countries. Also who said removed from the entire game? The topic was temporary chat bans. I actually don’t want people permanently removed from the entire game for that…
This topic has just crossed to being absurd…
People can use the chat, but choose not to, and it’s nothing to do with the spam timer, or the strictness of the moderation…
It’s that when you do use it, you get abused by randoms, telling you to not spam, or to shut up…
What do you think happens with these chat bans? It’s a progression system and eventually people quit. First it was chat filters. Then it was reports to moderators. Then it was automated reports. Then it was automatic detection. It progressively gets worse.
Every time I have gotten a chat ban, I have quit playing this game for a long period of time. You aren’t just “ending someone’s chat privilege’s.” You’re leveraging a system over another player, and there are wider consequences than just a mute. In most games it leads to bans anyway. It can change here at any time.
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Society as a whole is seeing decreases on communication especially among younger generations and the fear of reprisal is definitely a motivating factor.
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How many times have you even been muted, because I know I’ve only been hit twice…
Once was for a misinterpretation, and the second was a ninja mute that was also questionable…
That’s another valid nuance that lots of people choose.
I don’t know. Maybe twice as well. I’ve had this game for a decade or longer. I can’t remember.