years of handholding does that
Lmao what
Geniunely what handholding, a serious chunk of our tanks are overtiered or just wierd
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I’m sorry, what BR was the IKV 91 for a long time? This is just one example
Some exceptions, obviously, but tell me with a straight face that the Lago or J22-B belongs at their BR.
I can think of only a few undertiered swede vehicles - Sherman III/IV, SAV*, VIDAR*, and maybe the Go-kart, though its chassis sucks.
Sweden also has literally no heavy armor*, which means you actually have to learn the lessons of patience. Hell, its pretty clearly reflected in their winrates.
Air wise its even worse, so much of that tree (Especially in props) is overtiered to fuck. The J21s, J22s, vamps, etc.
I wouldnt say swedish players are quite as good nowadays as say, french or japanese players, (Mainly because its becoming more popular, and weve gotten a lot more premiums), but they are on average significantly better then US/RU/GE players.
*SAV is an edge case, VIDAR is fucked by being a derp gun and premium
Pretty much all of the Strv 122s should also be on that list.
Behold, one of the supposedly “some of the best players in the game”:
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As time passes, the ‘minor nations have the best players’ argument is aggresively becoming a myth, and your vid proves it.
Nations neglected in the past like Italy or Sweden (even China in some regards) have been getting some decent level of care from the snail.
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as I was writing this reply I thought you would also be a KV-1B Andy, but instead it seems only KV-1E, what’s the problem? Financial skill issue
Yep it happens way too often. This match, we technically had Sweden on our team, but it was only one guy.
Which AA?
It actually teaches you to aim because it does almost no damage. You need to aim for crew/ammo to kill a tank with that APDS.
Which one?
Germany has an arguably better version in their own tree.
Sweden is better than it used to be, but it isn’t that good throughout the whole tree. Meanwhile, the air tree is just kinda sad, there isn’t a single jet airframe that can’t be bought as a past/current premium, or that isn’t featured in other trees,
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Ever heard of the ITSVP 90? The stupidly overpowered AA that EVERYONE hates?
Its just a 10X better Chieftain Marksman, at only .3 Br above the Marksman.
Also, the VIDAR? Ever tried to kill that thing with some of the HE shells in game? Especially something like the Sheridan? It just non pens, you MAY knock out a radiator from the front, But other wise you aren’t gonna kill it with most HE rounds.
EDIT: the VEAK40 was also stupid over powered before they took away its proxy rounds, and even now you have the LVKV 9040, which is just a IFV combined with a Stupid good SPAA.
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The 2A7, while having better thermals, armor is a mess, making it worse than the 122s in that regard.
However the problem is that the 2A7/122 are both miles better than the next best tanks from other nations.
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Stupid armor holes in the turret.
I want that DM rework they promised
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Gonna revive this thread, because GOD FORBID.
Are we not allowed to have fun Gaijin? is our entire existence just to feed Top tier German and Russian Baby’s and their Kill ratios?
So the enemy team was superior in skill to your own.
You know what’s funny? I got a nuke using Germany: A stock-ish Leopard 2A6, a Leopard 2A4M 2nd spawn, and a Leopard 2A5 3rd spawn. Tank technology from 2020 War Thunder.
No fancy 2A7V, no Strv 122, no T-90M tho I doubt I could do as well in a Soviet lineup anyway due to their inferior firepower.
Just Abrams equivalent Leopards on a CQC map that harms Soviet tanks… Abandoned Town.
No, they weren’t. Most of them, were level 20s and 30s in 2PL’s and stuff, and they STILL outperform us in Abram’s and C2s. WITH GOOD TEAM MATES, most of my team was level 80+
And lets not even get into the garbage that is the 2A7V, or the 122B+
Literally impenetrable from the front by any Challenger 2. Which make’s no sense because the C2s have more composite on the front, and a STRONGER composite, with their add on armor packages YET THEY CAN BE KILLED BY AUTO CANONS.
@Heavytanker1945
Level is not an indication of skill, KDR and objective play for individual skill, and win rates for team skill.
As for Chally 2 vs Strv 122: Cannon breach and lower plates. On CQC maps: Idler wheel.
tbh neither German or Sweden should be on soviet side they don’t need Leopard helping them they have everything covered in line up all by themselves
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Hell Russia should just be alone out right, Not even China paired with them.
They have the best Tanks, planes, Spaa, Helis, EVERYTHING.
And all of it is perfectly suited for the Forced CQB Garbage that Gaijin makes us put up with
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