The latter honestly
Please can I play the version of the game you are?
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All I did was apply as little doctrine from real-life tactics to in-game as possible.
For tanks, the protection onion:
Don’t be seen. [Visual/mobility]
Don’t be shot at. [Mobility/awareness.]
Don’t be hit. [Mobility]
Don’t be penned. [Armor]
Don’t be fragged. [Survival]
Stick near shadows, trees, buildings, dead tanks, etc.
Be out in the open as little as possible.
The last time I died to CAS at top BR was a few weeks ago.
Last CAS I fragged at top BR was probably Cargo Port with the HSTVL, well… the most memorable frag of CAS.
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I play a lot 9.0 /9.3 Italy and Israel these days, and in my experience whenever USSR and Germany are in one team its mostly steamrolling the other team…those occasions we defeat them its usually very close battles ( those are the sweetest wins tho).
Add Sweden to the mix as well and its even more lopsided!
Maybe mm should not pair the two most played and best nations at certain BRs…
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aw man some things never change
The British have the Gripen and a Tornado, while the German have a MiG-29 and a Tornado. So about even. And both not as competent as USSR or USA.
Do not worry, Gaijin is hard on nerfing the already faulty Leopard 2s further into the ground.
(2A5 turret literally floating just saying)
Leopard 2A4, Leopard 2A5, Leopard 2A6, Leopard 2A7V, Strv 122A, Strv 122B PLSS, Strv 122B+ — a bug which caused the amount of shrapnel when penetrating the front of the hull to be low has been fixed. (Report ).
one of the worst bug reports to be seen by mankind
In particular as part of this task, we’re currently separating and detailing the elevation and traverse drives of the M1 and Leopard 2 series tanks with the addition of a hydraulic drive supply tank, where disabling this part will also disable the guidance drive.
That is the real problem. Nothing you can do when you are outnumbered because all your teammates just left. But that happens an all sides
Another important thing are lineups. Especially the big three have a lot of tanks for most BRs. So they can respawn more often. But that is a problem in which a lot of factors play into. First, the big three players make afaik the biggest part of the playerbase, so Gaijin gives them priority, as they can get the most money from them. USA and Germany being those two with the money.
Secondly, some minor nations didn’t built as many tanks IRL next to having a lower priority in Gaijins eyes
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Nato CAS or USA CAS?
NATO.
Top CAS in War Thunder are F-16C, F-16D [ISR], F-14B, Gripens, Mirage 2000s, JH-7A [Not NATO], and Tornado.
Mirage 4000 is a better Mig-27K.
And Su-25SM3 along with Harriers are subsonic aircraft, with the Su-25 being chronically subsonic.
“But >18km range AGMs!” On subsonic airframes. The Hungarian Gripen gets those.
And they’re still IR guided… defeated by smoke, trees, and buildings.
Ahh yes, sorry my bad, I will just start popping smoke randomly in battle from now on. Rookie mistake.
Also useful when the spawn or even the map has none of these things.
The thing about the Kh-38 are that they have an engagement range higher than my radar range, so I am not even aware that there is a Su-25 lurking and shooting at me. (Not that I am in a tank anyway). It is also more than twice as fast as a Maverick, sitting at Mach 2.2 (2716 km/h), while the Maverick is just 1150 km/h.
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Radars don’t frag people…
I’ve seen people talking about radar range when you’re limited by missile kinematics.
SPAA is useless, has been for 2 years; granted only this last year more and more people started learning how to play CAS.
But my missiles do and they have an even shorter range.
See the problem?
And those High Tier planes like the Su-25SM3, the F-16, the Gripens ect. with these fire and forget and guided A2G options all appeared in the last 2 years, so no wonder SPAA became useless.
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Sir, there were over 20 top CAS added in the last 2 years that exceed your SPAA’s range.
Complaining only when a middle of the road [of OP CAS] subsonic CAS is added is weird.
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While SU-25M3 is a grabage platform at top tier it is never forced to fly into enemy SPAA range.
It wont win any dogfight BUT it is the only plane that can fly high since Pantsir is on their team.
So in order to kill him either pantsir cant be spawned or you need Aim-7 equiped so you dont have to go up close to get spanked by S1
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The SU-25 can legit wipe ENTIRE teams off the map with rockets THAT DON’T EXIST.
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https://weaponsystems.net/system/734-266mm%20S-25
Both main rockets of su-25 do exist.
And in theory, only rocket what can wipe whole team (16) is S-13 since you get 40 (20) of em. “Fired in pairs”
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Because germany, russia and sweden (top br) are all much easily to play… one error with my britain challenger I lost the game.
so yes more chance too win when player have tank who can forgive your error with mobility, armor, gun…
No cheat, but more advantage. with my challenger the only situation where I can take more advantage than ennemy it’s on large MAP (lol) the challenger have a gameplay safe and passive. In CQB it’s hard.
And I don’t speack of CAS… CAS britain? who have that hahaha
I’m sure, you put a children of six year old, he can kill me easily with a t80 or leopard 2 lol.
you put a challenger 2… he cry xD
EDIT: I haven’t problem with steam roll, actualy good matchmaking for me if i play solo (not platoon), player russia and germany have a lot of poor player RUSH B. free kill guaranteed for me.
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A middle of the road subsonic with missiles that outperforms all other comparable missiles.
And outranges all SPAA (except the one in its own team) by a lot.
And that sits at a lower BR than the planes with comparable missiles.
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Yes, all top CAS outranges all SPAA.
The best CAS in the game have afterburners and outrange SPAA faster than the sobsonic aircraft that take 4 minutes of prep vs the 1 - 2 minutes of prep for the AB jets.
Tornado sits at 11.3, Mirage 2000DR1 sits at 11.3… both better than a mach 0.81 jet IMO.
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Yet KH38 will hit first since is 2x faster
Oh I am so sorry I did not know Tornado and Mirage had fire and forget missiles that outrange any and all.
I am so sorry that I did not know you could drop laser guided bombs on target from 20km away.
If the Su-25 performs so bad as a subsonic, why not bring it down in BR?
9.0 seems perfect for that performance.
And I don’t know what you are doing for 4 minutes? Isn’t the airspawn like 20 to 25 km from the battlefield? Which is in range to shoot the Kh-38 missiles?