Why does Abrams have such weak armor?

That also doesn’t matter at all if you have the turret ring issue and the hull with the lowest protection against APFSDS out of it’s peers.

Whose opinion do you think is more valuable? Someone with a 5 K/D and 80% WR over 1085 kills or someone with 3000 kills, a 1.3 KD, and a 40% WR?

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Someone who has played more games over a longer period of time, meaning they played with how the game changed, is more valuable. You strike me as someone who only wants to stat pad with KDR and only going for kills.

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So what I get out of this is as long as you have a weakspot, the rest of the armor is useless? Awful logic.

False. Leclerc, Leo 2A4M/2PL, Ariete, 2A5, the list goes on. The only real problem with Abrams is the turret ring being weak to autocannons. The rather weak hull really doesn’t matter all too much, as the rest of the tank more than makes up for it.

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@БЕИ would have a field day with this. False btw.

And yet I have 80% WR?

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All i see when i play the Abrams which you mentioned it got “Armor”, but i fail to see where it is, other than the turret cheeks which at this point nobody shoots at them at all, the hull armor which didn’t get any improvements whatsoever while other tanks at the same BR managed to get better armor but the Abrams stayed behind, a literal copy-paste.

All of these that you mentioned are not at the same BR as the SEPV2.

Well, its your opinion, the community disagrees, hull armor is beneficial but if you think otherwise then let’s remove Relikt, and the armor package on the 2A7 and let’s all play naked, and why the 2A7,B+, most the Russians tanks are all considered strong and tuff, while the Abrams stayed behind.

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So cool, you’re someone who plays a hyper specific way to farm as many kills as possible. It tells me you only elect to play a small number of games to keep your KDR and W/R extremely high.

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It isn't as bad as you say.

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People will shoot the cheeks if you swing your turret. Though overall Abrams, or any other tank, is not one you rely on armor with. If you got shot, you messed up.

Leclerc is 12.7
2A6/PSO is 12.7
2A5 is 12.3
2A4M is 12.0
2PL is 12.3
Ariete AMV is 12.3

And yet somehow the M1A1 HCs sit at 12.0, being some of the best 12.7 tanks .7 lower than they should be because of Gen 1 thermals???

The 2A7/122 and Abrams are sidegrades. Abrams has a snappier chassis, better ammo stowage, better mobility, etc.

RU tanks are garbage dumpsters hyped up by a community that simply can’t aim.

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Whatever.

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None of these you mentioned suffer from the same issues like the Abrams.

So it lacks armor that you literally said its there.

Give the HC better thermals and it’s instantly would be better than the SEPV2, although the issues are still there.

Don’t the Abrams next to B+,2A7 buddy, both are way different and Leopards are better.

They absolutely are not garbage at all.

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True. They suffer from worse issues.
Leclerc is worse in every category besides acceleration.
2A6/PSO is worse in every category as well aside from turret armor.
2A4M/2PL is worse in every category.

I didn’t say that. Don’t twist my words. “Though overall Abrams, or any other tank, is not one you rely on armor with. If you got shot, you messed up.”

SEPV2 got LWS and ROSY smokes for 30x total, thats up for debate. You can also remove TUSK on V2 but it does remove your composite sideskirts.

Sidegrades.

They have nothing besides armor. Terrible in nigh every other category.

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I really hope that one day people will actually think before talking about the abrams. Oh well, maybe tomorrow

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I’m not a US player, but let’s face it: there are way more people playing that same tank in the US than in China. You know what that means? China probably has more experienced and good players.

Yes, the point of showing those statistics is that the abrams is a good tank when not played by horrible players.

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This^^^^ the largest issue that plagues the abrams is its ease in access to brand new players. Im not the best player and lately thats declined further. But i do see trends and patterns really well. The major unbalance that happens with the u.s. being a bad nation is not knowing the tank youre playing. And expecting a tank on tank combat to be linear. Reality tanks are for infantry the abrams protection is made for such. Russian tanks are build for taking tanks hits and still being able to be used in combat. Later varients of the abrams have come to a more tank on tank roll and yes gaijin does get the du armor wrong and shell traps wrong but even with that the major issue is tactic and tank knowledge.

That data is old and irrelevant and simple was just inflated due to it being a new top-tier MBT. It has now stabilised since then.

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There’s still a significant difference between the T and USA ones

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Not really

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It’ll continue to decrease over time and the famous difference and skill gap will blow off as more average players pick the M1A2T.

In fact, current stats are a deflated version of December’s

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over rated american junk, never faced any modern MBTs IRL maybe some export t72s in iraq with baboon crews.