So, when there is no evidence of US getting better, its OPSEC and we need to use logic. But when there are no concrete evidence but what govt says about USSR equipment, its bias?
Jokes aside, it may be valid argument for us, but not for devs.
So being 9.0 tank it lacks everything USST tanks lack before and after it (gun depression, both vertical and horizontal traverse speed, space inside, reload speed, lrf and thermals ect), but somehow stays OP?
I get it was called OP at 8.3, i can get around it being OP at 8.7, but at 9.0? Seriously?
9.0 is BR where it has little armor, so it is best used as basically a light tank. Especially when it works bad at distances due to lack of LRF and speed of its APHE. CQC is the best then,
How?
gun depression isnt an issue, its not terrible. If u dont like the gun depression then dont terrain fight with it. Horizontal traverse speed isnt bad either idk why u bring that up
Reload speed isnt bad at all, considering the gun it has. Doesnt need thermal either. Thermal doesnt effect much on how good a tank is
lol
yes its a monster at CQC, just hold W and u win
its immune to bomb up to like ~1000 lb
but it is.
18 and 3 isnt bad?
My guy, even M60s have it better. Not even talking about real fast ones, like OF40s.
Even haubitze`s at the BR have it better. Tho i get what you come from, as its 300m pen APHE is the beast against Leopards and such. But it meets trouble with M60s for example. And they at the rank have some decent APFSDS with better reload speed.
ah but lack of it makes harder to notice enemies on the long distance. Tho as 279 is best playing CQC, it doesnt really suffer from it most of the time. But on some maps, or when the game ends up in some situations, lack of LRF and munition speed makes some troubles
Define “immune”. I played it enough to get killed with F84s and such many times, with 1000 pound bombs.
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Haven’t played mine for a while but after the changes from quite a while back it was not immune to bombs yeah. 500kg etc would easily kill you unless they land right above (happens in all tanks). Haven’t found them hard to kill playing US 9.0 and China 9.0 either.
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279 punishes new and weak players real bad. When they learn to shoot center mass with APFSDS which doesnt work with 279. But when you can aim a bit? Its easy to get its breech or even oneshot it at all
ok then dont terrain fight with it? most maps are city CQC cluster fuck anyway
its good enough
yea 8 second reload is not bad at all, if anything i’d say thats great for a gun like that, who cares if other tank can reload better, look at their shells and gun size too
yea then dont use it to snipe? why are u looking for enemy at long distance anyway, it doesnt have LRF to snipe either. the lack of thermal doesnt mean anything for this vehicle. Even without LRF, its not like its impossible to land shots, just take a little skill to aim
yea its immune up to 1000 lb, what i meant is 1000 lb is going to kill it, object 279 can tank anything under that
Yup. Other than a downtier I don’t think its at all problematic these days.
I thought they removed the bomb resistance years ago? when was the last time you played it, mine couldn’t even take a 250lbs these days lol
Thats a good answer for such question. However the point was that it isnt that versatile so its not OP
eh. I know not many machines that have it worse at that rank. Tho having APHE + stab makes up for that as you dont necessarily need to perfectly land a shot most of the time.
the problem is it has 10+
I dont own aced crew so the reload is around 9 seconds, which is pretty long.
ah but some maps force you to. SOme game situations also.
ah now it makes sense. It really is hard to kill with something like 250kg. Tho i dont see many planes that drop less than that at the rank.
mine survived some low caliber bombs tho
They actually did the right thing because for years it would unrealistically take any bombs that are below 4000 lbs and no damage beyond tracks, barrel and optics lol to a point where it gave me enough confidence to mock CAS spammer every time they bombed me and couldn’t kill me.
For a CAS hater like myself it was fun while it lasted.
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Hahahaha, good times indeed.
Considering that the BMPT was designed to engage infantry in urban areas that Russian tanks lacked the gun elevation to hit, having more of a shotgun bullet spread is probably not a bad thing for them as the idea is to fill a room on the opposite side of the street with high explosive shrapnel, if they are far enough away that accuracy becomes an issue, one of the MBTs can just HE the building instead
I also want to ask, why was that unrealistic tho? As i know it was designed to whistand nucelar explosion hit waves so bombs sound pretty alike
1 ton bomb embedded on top of the turret and only results in barrel/tracks damage, this happens to mine probably a few hundred times over and I could count it with my fingers on how many times it dies lol because of how rarely it dies to bombs I was able to keep track of the total deaths by bombs somwhere around single digit in total 300 deaths. Don’t get me wrong I wish it retains the ability to take bombs because fk CAS thats why
Well i do believe that bomb exploded on its roof or straight under it and not killing it is a BS. But any other way it should survive thanks to its hull construction that absorbs the explosion wave ig?
Exactly! Why invent a solution for a problem that doesnt affect you and isnt yours to solve lol
Also regarding my previous screenshot…what the flying F was this encounter with the BMPT?
https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/447331946370070211
If it still works like this then I won’t complain
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Yeah I agree. Otherwise it’s a very solid family. Situations like this are annoying as hell.