Sadly on this forum You won’t be able to have a proper argument with people as they won’t provide anything to back up their claims, so You end up in checking their stats and seeing that what they are saying was false.
If someone is able to provide anything really, then I will always talk about it and discuss it.
Need context bro, most things start somewhere, and at one point lead us to nowhere, or we end up somewhere where we finally agree with each other, most of the time it reaches a state where one person argues just for the sake of arguments due to having an ego bigger than a shark, remember that rational arguments means communication in which claims are supported using evidence and reasoning, what happens when one make such claims that is so ridiculous that people start asking for evidence to back up their claims? they start twisting their words and indirectly insult everybody’s intelligence by repeatedly saying “just use SPAA bro” when everybody knows it is ineffective against certain types of aircrafts mentioned in that thread, talking smack while showing their ass to everyone that they don’t seem like someone who knows how to play the game themselves, stat checking them is a way to shut them down and troll them back bro
Thing is, many times those people are making BS argument in the first place and refute any point by some nonsense not reflecting what the game is.
And from my experience people rarely go stat check unless you are making some ridiculous and downright stupid claim.
dude. its the opposite for me. I love being able to hide and use bushes/terrain and turning off my engine, etc… Plus the arcade mode is 100% the training wheels version of the game… it takes a LOT more skill to play realistic, especially for aiming/shooting. Which also makes it a lot more rewarding, when you do make a good shot.
The only benefit that arcade mode has, is the tanks are faster. Its not by a Ton, but it is noticeable. Thats it… the rest are all cons, or Pros for playing Realistic mode.
Stop playing the introductory version of the game and play the Actual game (RB)
He never will that’s why when I write messages he’s either responding or responding to someone else. Typically involves passive-aggressive anger issues and an e7o(this one is fairly easy to figure). But then I got him ignored so he can yell all he wants into a void for all I care, I’m just gonna be eating popcorn and be amused.
Since the forums and the War Thunder unofficial communication discord aka WarCOMM has to deal with these foreign citizens.
Another Message being reported cause 1 person wants to abuse it.
You got Your answear why I acted like that @Capt_Brocily, I think now it should be clear, especially when You check the whole discussion.
Every single time you try to have a semi-serious discussion on a topic, it gets ruined and muddied by super-active idiotic “Karen” types who are seemingly incapable of not making stupid, irrelevant comments on every single post.
It’s almost as if it isn’t already divided with those in Arcade making essays on the forums on how people enjoy Sim and RB cause they do not want to learn how to aim. With a few of them I’ve noticed being the same ones who blindly drive not knowing there’s one to their left and immediately getting killed for it.
Unlike you, I do not give a damn if my stats are public, also the fact you even mentioned ULQ a person who’s infamous on the War Thunder Forums and considered a literal meme for making essays or rant forum posts that even the admins and moderators had to step in because they were that bad, and all of that started because he refused to listen to the simple fact that a tank only GRB gamemode does not work in game and never will, the Admins, moderators, and even the developers have all said that it makes no sense.
So don’t try to correct me on something I have experience in on both Air then ground in both AAB->Now GRB and heck even Sim. To backtrack for a moment, I focus on Support, I do not focus on frontline engagement. That is secondary to me. It also means I will not perform as well as others nor do I care.
Now I have and will attempt to assist others in learning the fundamentals of Realistic battles but if they refuse to learn and continue using the knowledge they gained from playing Arcade then I cannot help them because Realistic Battles are not Arcade, they are fundamentally completely different game modes and perform very differently. Arcade is a very unserious gamemode and RB can also once you get the hang of identifying a weak point and trying to realize their next move to put this into an Analogy, Realistic and Sim are Chessboards. With many roles. Arcade is also a chessboard but consisting of queens only rather than bishops, queens, kings, knights and pawns.
If ULQ was responding to this, i have you ignored, unsure how many times do i need to state this.
You mean the topics where people got muted because they couldn’t follow logic? Yes, there is a lot of it, good thing moderators/admins put a stop to it and now we are able to have a good conversation.
And no, You don’t have experience which can be seen on Your profile.
And no, no one said that the TO mode doesn’t work.
People try to use others’ stats to “shut them down” but never bother to actually squad up and play with them or figure out what their strengths are. Which mine has always been support. I’ll name 4 games where I do the same thing. Unturned-> I am a builder, I focus on support, manipulation, and trickery. I am not good at frontline combat.
Minecraft: I’m a builder, I am not a PVP’er. Most of my supplies come from mining large quantities of resources out of chunks that can be used as a home. → In-game Monitary trades.
Even in RTS games such as Company Of Heroes 2 and Call of War, I am a support player, I do not go on the offensive unless my base is well-defended or I have a well-equipped frontline that’s capable on Air, land, and Sea.
To put this simply, the more I lose and die, the more knowledge and experience I gain, and can perform a lot better. Stats will never be able to show this because it accounts for every death and kills.
Like it or not, stats are practical application of knowledge onto game. Someone who understands game will know what to do in most situations.
Playing support does not mean you will have bad stats.
In warthunder, for example AA vehicles that cant engage ground targets are by definition support vehicles. You can have good stats playing them.
You can also have bad stats and a strong influence on the match since you can affect the game in a lot more ways than just by gathering kills.
Oh, I agree but in this context. I do not, cause they intended to use it to make me stop talking. It’s a common trick people use. Asides that what Muffin said above is very true.
That would still mean you have one of the following:
Still depends on 31 other players in the match, but should be a bit higher
& 3. are not used by statshamers.
lmao
If You have problem with Your own stats being shown, then it is Your own fault.
If Your own stats contradict Your statment, then You should consider if what You say is not influenced by Your own bias.
I play both modes. AB is definitely more fun when you’re playing with slow vehicles so you get a solid boost in arcade and don’t feel sluggish. It’s also nice when you’re at a certain BR where penetrating an enemy requires pixel hunting. I do know where to shoot at least most tanks but sometimes it feels like it’s really just mouse skill based, rather than strategizing.
I enjoy RB in BRs where I know a game can sort of drag out and turn into a mind game. Sometimes I just don’t want a game to end in 8 minutes, and sometimes I want the experience to feel more relaxed.
So for me it heavily depends on BR - some BRs are just not fun in one of these modes, and the game pace that I want at the moment.
I have no problem with my stats being brought up, if it is relevant to the discussion and if they can be used to prove a point.
So far they never were and the last times somebody used them, they were largely misinterpreted.
If someone is saying that vechicle ‘x’ is effective and his own stats show something else then they were brought up for a reason.
That is true. I can’t recall this ever being applied to my stats though.