France has the Jumbo at 5.7 and the EBR at 5.3.
You’ll also find a lot of players bringing the Puma into these battles, as well as Japanese and Italian M24s.
Both Italy and France have 40mm Bofors SPAAs which are quite deadly even to medium tanks from the side. And you also see tons of Ostwind IIs driving around.
All annihilate a M18 in the blink of an eye.
For the premiums tigers. Do they have the 100mm front plate? Or is it more?
You actually don’t know this?
The Premuim Tiger tank has special tracks on the front to provide additional protection, which makes it impossible for 85mm cannon to penetrate them.
The purpose of the Premuim Tiger tank is to target USSR tanks
I hope you will eventually learn that the US 120 is nowhere near as effective as the USSR 122 based on penetration alone
Those two tanks are hard counters (tho I’d argue only the Jumbo 75mm is), yeah, but every vehicle has their hard counters after all. The others you mentioned are tanks far away from their intended BR, they’re literally griefing themselves over against anything that is not gonna be a light tank (which is much more rare at this BR).
Surprise, that’s why the mobility is the key component of light tanks, you don’t have to face anything head-on at all. That’s also why scouting exists aswell for light tanks. A T-34-85 on the other hand can’t retreat, hide and ambush tanks as well as an M18 and only thing it has to face tanks if it wants to be useful. Like your whole point just smells like saying light tanks are useless compared to medium tanks when they both have completely different roles in the first place.
neat. it blocks the aphe if the tiger is perfectly angled.
note that i said most cases. perfect angling is not most cases.
Again, good luck facing anything with around 200mm effective armor against the IS shell (like US heavies) and at that, not get obliterated by the countless weakspots you have on your tank. Post-pen may be worse on the 120mm and not as good at angles, but even then, the tank it is on has other advantages to make use of.
But the Tiger tank has excellent downward angles and firepower, and the 88mm Pzgr can eliminate any opponent that has been penetrated.
And the Tiger tank also has good maneuverability. The maximum speed of the Tiger tank is 45km/h, while the maximum speed of the T-34 is 49km/h, and the maximum speed of the T-3485 is 55km/h, which is not much different
Could you please use dash marks when talking about the T34 and T-34, because sometimes it’s harder to understand which tank you want to talk about.
ok
the 85 also has a really good nuke round. maybe not 215g but 164g is also very deadly.
its all a question of do you want a smaller tank with better reaction time or something larger with better armor with less reaction time for more sp
Overall, the 85mm cannon is not as good as the 88mm connon because it has a high possibility of allowing opponents to survive and retract into cover when attacking the commander’s tower of the Tiger tank H-type and the Panther tank’s turret
And the 88mm cannon obviously doesn’t have to worry about this issue
Moreover, in terms of the cannon mirror, T3485 has a fixed 4x magnification, while the Tiger model has a variable magnification of 1.9-3.5x
In terms of muzzle velocity, the 88mm connon has a higher muzzle velocity than the 85mm connon, which means that the shell falls less during flight, the trajectory is more horizontal, and the penetration depth of the 88mm gun is 20mm higher than that of the 85mm gun
Not to mention the 10 ° downward angle of the Tiger tank, which makes all USSR vehicles envious
Are you using 365A or 365K
I admit that the 85mm gun has some advantages, such as a 2mm higher oblique penetration ability than the 88mm gun, and a good oblique turning ability for the 85mm shell. However, overall, the 85mm gun is not as good as the 88mm gun
Are you using 365A or 365K?
The main ammunition for T3485 is BR365A, because the TNT equivalent of BR365K is only 77g, which is obviously lower than the 164g of BR365
The M61 shot on the M4A3E2 jumbo has only 1/3 of the filler the 365A has, yet I have not had any issue one-shotting tiger H1’s by shooting their cupola, I am unsure why you’ve faced issues doing the same with 365A
Why don’t you say that the loading speed of M4A3e2 is 5s? Even if the loading speed of M4A3e2 (76) is 6s, it is much faster than the 7.4s of T3485 and Tiger tanks
M4A3E2 has a stabilizer that can quickly fire the first shell, while T3485 often needs to wait for the muzzle to slowly stabilize before firing, so it cannot be generalized
But your point was that the T-34-85 can’t kill in one shot when hitting the commander’s cupola, even though the M4A3E2 with a weaker shell can
I think you just lack experience, you should learn more of the game before coming to a conclusion