Why do german aircraft have the flight performance of a bathtub with wings

I assume you mean the torpedo bomber dora. which has (or at least had) air spawns which meant it was at an instant advantage over all other aircraft used as fighters at the BR, it turns well, rolls perfectly and has quality guns. Its a premium that was in a good spot.

as for nerfs the only ones I know of are BR balances, to make the game fairer for all. sorry you cant switch off and top frag in wunderwaffe

almost like the spit was the only allied plane to see service before and after ww2 for a reason, itself and all allied fighters which followed in the war also designed and modified to be able to counter the aircraft of the Luftwaffe who began lagging behind by 1943. The aircraft of the same times tend to be lower as the FW190 initially did outperform them, so it faces newer crafts who can beat it out.

where the 190 beats out a spit you can simply deny that with the better energy use and agility.

190 (just like pretty much all of the german prop fighters) is best at booming and zooming. Take it from a spitfire main, stop trying to turnfight the spitfire and you’re probably going to win as we cant take on a faster plane extending out.

most german fighters arent really turnfighters, at all. booming and zooming and not charging into the furball is the optimal way to play them.

took me a good while to get used to the BF109s from spitfires because of that. At least the CAS options are toxic as hell so you can take advantage of that

There are just too many things that outclimb it, and they suck at doing everything else.

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if im remember correctly the 190 was built almost only to be a counter to the mk5 spitfire but got shoehorned into other roles it wasn’t intended for. and with most german equipment of the war started ahead of the curve and fell behind quite quickly from technology advancements and doctrinal issues

brother F4U was in korea same withe F51 or P51

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…not worthless, but outperformed due to gaijin’s BR setting policy and countless open and hidden nerfs.

Reading this thread:

will help you to get a better understanding why we are at this point.

im aware. the corsair was a 1942 aircraft tho so a significantly later and more advanced period in aviation design to when R.J Mitchell designed the Spitfire, which was the mid 1930s.

the spit was still in use as a fighter in some militaries at the time of Korea too I will also add

yeah and ended service in 1979 way past the spits 1961 which spit served 23 years while f4u did 37

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all im saying is spit isnt only one

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there are many german planes that can go down but gaijin say no

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the corsair ended up in all kinds of places in south America I’m not surprised it almost made it to the 80s.
fully deserved too brilliant aircraft.

El Salvador couldn’t afford entendards and things like Argentina so used them for as long as possible

the BF109 technically went on until the mid 60s as the hispano 1112 which was pretty much just a G series with a different engine.

What’s with all the luftwaffe complaining recently. Was there a wehraboo uprising?

Since general topic -

Flew Bf109G14 in SB yesterday. Had a Spitfire Mk XIVe on my tail. I won the turnfight. How? Went vertical until spitfire lost control then just sat on his tail. This little trick seems to work pretty universally across both Bf109F4 and Bf109G14 when I encounter a spitfire that tries to keep turning and climbing at the same time. Try it.

I had a Fw190A5/U-14 on my team. That guy regularly beat enemy mustangs and corsairs, granted it was squishface so not that representative given skill diff.

Not all of them, there are differences.

thats the other thing… it cant boom and run as they are too slow to run

Timestamped meme-delivered advice for OP and all “why is my nation so bad and weak players.”

“To understand the force, one must study all its aspects… Not just the dogmatic view of the jedi.”

Ergo.

Propeller planes. Most are rank 3.
Most 4.0 aircraft can be reached in ~6 hours of ABR gameplay on a weekend.
Do it. Unlock a 4.0 (or closest since some 4.0 are 3.7 or 5.0 in other modes and vice versa) in USSR/ITA/GER/GB/JAP/USA
Once unlocked and spaded, fly that 4.0 (or closests) fighter from each of the WW2 relevant domestic producers for 1 week and only that plane.

You might discover a few things like…

“Why can’t I out-turn a hellcat?! Hellcat OP!” turning into “Oh, hellcat has zero acceleration of note and becomes unusable at slow speeds. What if I didn’t bring it into a descending spiral to give it infinite speed to keep burning for turns? What if instead I forced it to climb with me without realizing it’s climbing forcing it to either disengage or die?”

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every 4.3 german aircraft besides like 2 have a top speed no more then 650kmh while almost every american aircraft has a top speed of 650-720kmh and have like 4x better acceleration then german aircraft

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I understand that each nation has its strengths and weaknesses, but bro you cannot deny that german aircraft are just overnerfed. their cannons shoot literal Styrofoam bullets, they have the acceleration of a brick, the turning capabilities of a bathtub with wings, and the top speed of a chicken with no legs

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to add onto this, i unloaded about 50-100 20mm rounds into a spitfire, he flew off literally unharmed, out turned me and literally gave me backshots with their 20mms

adding onto this again, 5 hours ago i did a boom n zoom with the FW-190 D9 on an IL-8, most shots landed and he flew off with no issue, i had to go in for a second run to take him out

They’re not.

Bf109F4 is a plane I know i can comfortably take into 3.0-4.0 and 4.0-5.0 lobbies and not feel outmatched on performance, only skill.

Bf109G14 has been quite a bit of fun to fly as well.

Are you trying to turn flat at low speeds?

For literal styrofoam bullets: if that’s the case why did I get a one second burst kill on a mustang where I actually landed my hit where it matters (fuel tank)? In my experience “stryofoam bullets” happen if you play on high ping and you miss your shots and only land your machinegun bullets but don’t realize due to desync, or if you shoot something without anything to actually damage (shooting P-47 in between wing spars rather than fuel tank or engine).

For turns like a boat: Are you using your rudder to help your rolls? Are you monkeypulling in a flat circle? Have you heard of the tactical egg and yoyos and pitchbacks?

For speed: You’re a jack of all-trades. American planes are faster than you, but spitfires and zeros are pitifully slow. Italian planes are about on par. Yaks are faster.