like why is the fw 190 d-9 at 5.0 when it gets out turned by literally everything and the guns are mid as hell. every german aircraft beyond 2.3 is actual garbage. You cant turn fight as you just get out turned and you lose energy quicker then running into a solid concrete wall, you cant do 1 taps because the 13mm, 15mm, 20mm, and 30mm does less damage then pissing on the enemy, you cant out speed your enemy because everything is 5x faster then you. German air is mid as hell outside of the hs 129b in ground, other then that german air is worthless
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i have the german IL-2 and i out turn literally every german aircraft at 3.0-5.0 and its kinda depressing that the top notch german fighters of ww2 get out turned by a crop-duster
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I found the Fw 190s to always just be bad, and the 109s are only good at a lower BR, the higher ones kinda suck at everything and get outclassed.
I ended up getting the Yak for lower BRs, the BV 155 is fun… after that it just sucks, the 262s suck, the 163s are nerfed, the premium jets suck… I’ve been hardstuck in the German air tree for years because it’s no fun.
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First they released Dora as premium ,then Americans and Russians cried ,cried,cried and nerf followed …they nerfed all fw 190’s at same time.
Fw 190’s are now outperformed by all Spitfire versions ,which is just laughable.
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Back in the early days of war thunder it became clear quite quickly that the aircraft of other nations were completely outmatched by the german aircraft. Reducing BRs weren’t an option as there were two few aircraft and the tech trees hadn’t been fleshed out. So the decision was made to nerf the flight models planes with offensive armaments. This made planes like the German Yak1B and IL-2 extremely sought after as their wings weren’t ‘clipped’ so to speak /s
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so what your saying is, all other countries had dog shit vehicles so they decided to make german aircraft unplayable LOL
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not just spitfires, almost everything else in the sky. P-63s, P-51s, LA-5s literally any popular fighter decimates every german aircraft. Like the BF-109 used to be decent back in 2018 it was my main. i could out-turn everything. Now? Its like you strapped wings onto a dumpster and chucked it out of a cargo plane
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I get decent amount of kills with the 190s, but they just have horrible guns and turning and their engines don’t make up for it
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There’s a mistake right there, most of them are boom and run, not turn fighters.
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can we talk about wild undertiered yaks ?
190s are interceptors but for some reason get outclimbed by spits and 109s are best used as energy fighters
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only good 190 is TA-152 first model with big wings
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I assume you mean the torpedo bomber dora. which has (or at least had) air spawns which meant it was at an instant advantage over all other aircraft used as fighters at the BR, it turns well, rolls perfectly and has quality guns. Its a premium that was in a good spot.
as for nerfs the only ones I know of are BR balances, to make the game fairer for all. sorry you cant switch off and top frag in wunderwaffe
almost like the spit was the only allied plane to see service before and after ww2 for a reason, itself and all allied fighters which followed in the war also designed and modified to be able to counter the aircraft of the Luftwaffe who began lagging behind by 1943. The aircraft of the same times tend to be lower as the FW190 initially did outperform them, so it faces newer crafts who can beat it out.
where the 190 beats out a spit you can simply deny that with the better energy use and agility.
190 (just like pretty much all of the german prop fighters) is best at booming and zooming. Take it from a spitfire main, stop trying to turnfight the spitfire and you’re probably going to win as we cant take on a faster plane extending out.
most german fighters arent really turnfighters, at all. booming and zooming and not charging into the furball is the optimal way to play them.
took me a good while to get used to the BF109s from spitfires because of that. At least the CAS options are toxic as hell so you can take advantage of that
There are just too many things that outclimb it, and they suck at doing everything else.
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if im remember correctly the 190 was built almost only to be a counter to the mk5 spitfire but got shoehorned into other roles it wasn’t intended for. and with most german equipment of the war started ahead of the curve and fell behind quite quickly from technology advancements and doctrinal issues
brother F4U was in korea same withe F51 or P51
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…not worthless, but outperformed due to gaijin’s BR setting policy and countless open and hidden nerfs.
Reading this thread:
will help you to get a better understanding why we are at this point.
im aware. the corsair was a 1942 aircraft tho so a significantly later and more advanced period in aviation design to when R.J Mitchell designed the Spitfire, which was the mid 1930s.
the spit was still in use as a fighter in some militaries at the time of Korea too I will also add
yeah and ended service in 1979 way past the spits 1961 which spit served 23 years while f4u did 37
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