They vocally oppose suggestions or changing CAS in game, because they KNOW that CAS is not only Over Powered, but Ridiculously over powered. They hide behind the stats and kills that planes get vs how many kills ground forces get, and then conveniently forget to factor in the Several other factors that make CAS over powered.
a few being:
Spawn a plane and fly over an enemy, and then he cant hear the planes ally coming, because planes are loud AF
Plane strafes you, does a bit of damage, but you take your eyes off ground to look at air anddddd, boom you die to another tank
See a plane coming in and have to try and outplay its bombs (most likely a coward revenge bombing) , and luckily you move in time, buttttttttt, you lost your cover and now you can get shot by other tanks
Took your eyes off fighting 2 other tanks, to try and shoot a plane, and now your attention and subsequently Barrel is pointing up and away from the other tanks… .and wooppp, youre a free kill
(about 20 other i could ramble off, but CAS is simply Way too strong and does a LOT more than just get kills with bombs/guns/missiles, etc but they still get a ton of kills and disables of ground forces, just by themselves. )
You should tell that to all the people killed in friendly fire incidents that were the results of the A-10 having no advanced optics for verification of friendly ground troops.
Off topic, yes, but making a claim that the A-10 is one of the best planes ever made is a pretty awful idea. What I said is an answer to that. You shouldn’t act like a know it all, when you indeed don’t know it all. No “best plane ever made” has committed as many friendly fire incidents as the A10 has. There is radio chatter capturing one event where I believe an American A-10 pilot strafed a British convoy. Quite horrifying, and would have been completely preventable if the A-10 had any advanced optics. There are also accounts of A-10 pilots bringing pairs of binoculars to use while in flight as an aide to correctly identifying targets. Not at all the “best plane ever”.
yeah, youre right… the A-10’s were only in service for like 4 years… Definitely not a good plane and definitely didnt excel at what it was designed to do.
See, it’s stuff like this that actual upsets me. There are accounts from US service members that experienced close air support from A-10s in combat. They are not positive accounts by any means, and some went so far to say that calling in air support from A-10s was feared by many soldiers on the ground because of the inherent inaccuracy of the gun. I’m going to assume you haven’t served in the US military, because Service members don’t enjoy equipment that tends to kill their friends. You sit and read these stupid articles that praise an old, slow, worthless plane with a gun that hasn’t been effective against it’s intended targets, ever.
1st go read thread,…
2nd go read and understand what is said
3rd go read again, so you don’t insult people that tries effectively to balance things instead of running away with the Tank-only mode “option”,…
4th go read rules now, and see what you’ve broken already.
Btw,… your behavior is inacceptable even on this forum → @Pacifica : i’m not gonna report every of his aggressive post on a thread he doesn’t dared to read before writing an Essay on how bad CAS players are to oppose Tank-only,… but i’ll let you judge the “infinite wisdom” of the posts he left in this thread.
Chill bro, we are all here with a similar intention, which is to make the game better for everyone, I can argue with someone on the internet, but when I see you in my local bar I would still buy you a drink bro.
I have put aside my differences with quite a few different users on here in which I disagree with, but there are some people that I cannot tolerate. He is the first and only person on my ignore list because I don’t particularly enjoy people who make light of my fellow servicemembers passing under horrible circumstances. The situation has passed.
Comments removed… certain user has a week “vacation” from the Forum… kinda ironic after talking about lack of consequences and all that… there are consequences for actions taken here on our Forum…
And I am very sure you would have gotten kicked out of a store with a Police escort talking the way you have just spoken here to someone…
Such behavior is not tolerated whatsoever… and there are consequences for actions taken here on our Forum, Web Pages and in Game…
In a game where your primary goal is to win by killing the other team, every vehicle type is “at the expense of tanks”.
You realise spawning CAS costs much more SP than a tank, and you primarily need to use ground vehicles to get the SP for CAS? If someone spawns in CAS, it’s because your team gave them the SP.
Spawn a fighter and kill them in space.
The CAS costs 7-10 times as much SP as a tank. If it were an equal engagement it wouldn’t be worth spawning CAS.
Sounds boring if there is no counterplay.
Don’t tell ULQ that, he says SPAA is useless, and every nation should have a pantsir at reserve tier.
HVARs are not going to kill much without direct hits. They have a tiny amount of explosive.
Actually you just need to top up the given SP zt start of match with as little as a cap + assist. I dont care anymore game is turning into skillless shit
Tank vs tank is, in ideal scenarios, a skill matchup. In theory the best tanker wins. In reality it’s often whoever has the best tank, which will largely depend on nation.
Pantsir counters air vehicles, because it costs less SP than air assets, and has a much easier time killing them than the air assets have killing the pantsir. I know you don’t agree with this, but the statistics disagree with you. It’s a shame Thunderskill doesn’t track the Pantsir properly, so we can’t see how strong it is over a reasonably large player population.
Why do you bring up “statistics disagree with you” to ULQ_Lover, then in the following words state that there are no reliable statistics?
Cohesion required.
No such thing as no counterplay, if the vehicle is overperforming then it will be raised in br where such an adjustment will finally put it in a br where it can be countered more easily hence its KDR will be dropped. I’ll use Chieftain MK10 as an example, it will not be 9.0 for a long time due to its turret armor, it will be raised to 9.3 and then start facing more things that would pen its turret cheek more reliably, which is a viable solution down the road, most TO advocates doesn’t see campers as a problem, only CAS advocates worries about something they are not even interested in participating and such non-issue being brought up when one runs out of arguments to prevent something from happening for one’s own benefit, we have long range maps and cqc in rotation already and it encourages players to use the vehicle’s attributes suit for the battlefield type, which means certain vehicles will thrive in one map and mediocre in another, you can camp all you want hull down with an unmanned turret like the AGS or 2S38 you will still fail to maintain a 1.5 KDR if you are not skilled enough, a Leopard 2 may fail to eliminate a hull down AGS but his teammates with HE will OHKO it through the turret. I enjoyed the game the most when no CAS was interrupting our tank vs tank duels, similar to how planebros hate someone interrupting their one-on-one dogfight.