Why do CAS players so vocally oppose any suggestions

That’s not a “goad” mods would tell you the same thing lol

I know that’s Cro, because that’s what ULQ was responding to… Maybe you should try looking and understanding compared to trying to dogpile for the egostroked…

It was said, and it was directly about the fact of trying… But I get it, you feel like you’ve been so hard done by that you don’t want to try… I get that… But that’s not what the game is.

By all means you can keep being blind to the threat and ignore it, but as demonstrated many times in this thread, if you ignore it, it’ll only get you worse.

And by keeping on playing the game as you want it compared to what it is, is the basis of the issue here.

And as I said to that, if there wasn’t a vehicle with a role to fit that…

‘Too bad you have to die to spawn it’ isn’t a factor…

I’m just tired of being dogpiled for not sharing this mentality that the game needs changing to suit the aggrieved…

There’s no reason for the hostility, and the deriding.

Guys let’s keep it clean alright? It’s getting a bit too hot in here.

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I also don’t think grb should be changed in this manner I think they should create a separate game mode I think things have gotten a little out of hand

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I think You don’t even understand what You have just wrote here:

Person A: There are vehicles with limited elevations
Person B: if there wasn’t a vehicle with a role to fit that
Person A: Too bad you have to die to spawn it

So person A is talking about using a vehicle with limited elevation. Person B suggests to him that there are vehicles for a role of fighting aircrafts (SPAA). Person A who is still talking about using vehicles with limited elevation says, that it is a shame that in order to use that vehicle, he would need to die in the vehicle he is currently using (the one with limited elevation).

Can You understand it now?

It’s been that way for a whole year now, and I’d appreciate it if it could be escalated as it’s obviously never going to be fixed with ULQ being able to set dogpiles and ignorance like they have been free to for months.

It’s nothing about changing anything, it’s actually directly about them getting thier own mode to suit their inadequacies and choice to remain ignorant and beligerant for the sake of making out the game is the issue, not them.

Wouldn’t more game modes be better for variety of play style?

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Everybody is free to have their own RESPECTFUL opinions. If you disagree with someone it doesn’t necessarily mean that person is wrong. One of the key points of the forums is to keep an open mind and agree to disagree.

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I think you need to go through and see where this comes from to be honest…

There’s no need to statshame, no need to make out that things are rants, or anything of the sort.

The ignorance to the points made and the same old tired arguments being exagerated to suit this TO mode nonsense, and the clouding of the point to make out ‘It’s addding a mode, not removing it’ makes it clear that there’s no discussion going on here, they’re dictating…

Why are you trying to advocate against adding TO? What will drastically change from your q into combined arms?

Because I don’t like the way it’s peddled to people as the ‘only’ solution and that nothing can be done about CAS in any other manner… (After all, that IS what this thread has become about… No other solutions, just this precious suggestion.)

Nothing to do with the queue… Just straight up don’t like pandering.

I agree, there should be some attempts to balance CAS/SPAA before TO is added. This can be achieved by changing SP costs, spawn conditions, and rebalancing SPAA/CAS BRs.

If there has been genuine effort and CAS balance hasn’t been solved/made better, then TO should be considered.

I don’t understand why both things can’t happen as some people just want to enjoy pure tank vs tank combat meaning no changes go SPAA/air balance is going to make any change for them in long run.

We already have 10 years of gaijin trying to balance things.

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CAS isn’t a new mechanic to WT, it’s been added years ago and even with several nerfs it’s still unbalanced. Looks like genuine effort had been made.

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To a point though, the players themselves have to try otherwise it’ll just be the old meme… And this is where my issue with the proponents of this nonsense is.

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There are several easy things that can be done, including increasing CAS SP costs, decreasing CAP SP costs, forcing an AF spawn for all planes, and moving all airfields back.

You could even add plane scouting for SPAA, or (this is controversial) give all non radar SPAA a short range lead indicator.

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This could be enhanced as the air alerft function, whilst decent, could be made better in this.

The marker on the bearing is one thing, but it requires people to actually pay attention. I call out when they spawn, and when they start to make thier attack.

I also make note of what the planes are in chat, and if there’s multiple, call the number out.

I used to call ‘Air’ in chat to tell people prior to this, and always used to call out if it was a fighter, or if it’s an attacker, bomber, and if it has bombs visible.

Fiddling with SP costs is a decent idea, but the second part might introduce some problems as forcing AF spawns could result in easy spawn camping.

AAs need more than scouting to be competitive.
Seeing how starter helicopters (8.3) can’t be reliably countered (with a few exceptions) before SACLOS AAs (10.3) is pretty nuts.