Very unfortunate that the SPAA was spammed by Spike ER missiles lol His team was winning though and he decides to stay in the open instead of parking behind a house or building knowing very well there isn’t enough enemy players left judging by the kill count bar above. That’s what I do in most cases to avoid this kind of barrage. I have specific places I go to when using SAMs for cover, I don’t like staying in the open.
maybe TO will be a gaint camper hell but maybe thats what some people want
finely nashorn and other td:s can stretch there legs without getting cased constantly
but just to make it clear i am against completely removing cas from the game TO should only be a separate game mode maybe even with lower rewards than current ground mixed batttles
Yea, nah… I’d rather not feed the main participants of this thread who merely throw stats out and moan about everything, ego-stroking themselves to make a group who villify and deride anyone who dares to play the game as it was designed.
Ha, like they’d be wanting ANY sacrifice of any of thier rewards…
me to but there are few problems
alot of maps dont have any cover close to spawn
even if cover exists it does not help against attacks from above
and most aa are not fast and or are very big so impossible to hide
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So you don’t see a problem in what I’ve just said ?
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Not really, because as ULQ constantly says the BR doesn’t matter, he can still hit things well out of thier engagable range…
Such the expert.
well said indeed
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A good point and its certainly one I have made previously but how will we ever know?
Supposing we trial it for a couple of weeks, (we, like I am part of Gaijin lol )
and it does become camper hell drudgery, then the point is proven once and for all and after 12 years Gaijin finally earned the right to say "yeah we tried TO and it was s**t, told ya so " then every CAS player gets to say the same for the next 100 years when this issue comes up.
If that is so likely to happen then what could be better for Gaijin and the CAS fanboys than to trial it?
What if they try it for a month and player numbers shoot through the roof because all the WoT mob move over and all the old CAS haters rejoin ? Do me and UHQ get a 10% RP bonus each ?
: )
It is just about being scared of any changes.
As I have finally finished my master thesis and now preparing just for the exam, I’m in crossroads of staying in the current company and picking the other one that gives me better benefits. I have the gut feeling everytime when I think about changes that can come up with everything I decide now.
Being scared of changes is nothing to be shameful of, You just need to understand from where it is coming from and be able to properly decide what is best. Some just can’t do it.
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Ground players have all sorts of sporting ways to thwart CAS without abusing the game mechanics in unethical ways. The number one way to protect yourself from CAS is to stay aware. When you’re aware and thus know a plane is coming you can take evasive action. Stay on the move, don’t be a sitting duck, look for cover to obscure you from the plane, and if you have a roof MG you can shoot back or if you have SPAA/CAP allies alert them to the plane’s existence.
You have become so blinded by your festering hatred of CAS that you would sooner tolerate unethical gameplay if it frustrates people who use planes.
WoT is a trash game for low skill casuals. I do not want them in WT.
See above. WoT is garbage and anyone who enjoys it has no place in a real game like WT. Need I remind you that WoT has vehicle health bars and premium ammunition? Ridiculous.
CAS haters do not want to adapt, and some say they might not even be able to.
TO GRB is NEVER going to happen. Gaijin has made that clear numerous times and no amount of whinging in this containment thread is going to change their minds. Let it go. Move on. Accept reality. You will be happier for it in the long run.
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Only problem is that such vehicles can only fire when they get a lock onto a target. Guess what, that lock never happens because enemy vehicle is too far away, but still being within it’s effective range.
So again, is it okay that 8.3 CAS can outrange 10.0 SPAA to the point the latter have exactly 0% chance of succeeding ?
Changes are scary and I hate change especially in this game but the big thing about changes is knowing when to make them and I feel with WoT in the doldrums and unrest in the WT camp now is the time to at least try a TO version of GRB.
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Go back to playing Arcade, it’s the closest thing to what you want. Yes there are still planes but they are extremely limited planes that players don’t get to choose and spawn in on a timer. Leave GRB the way it is for gamers who can handle the existence of proper combined arms play.
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But the whole TO movement just wants to do that!
They don’t want to change anything to the current gameplay.
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This is all good until you learn we have CAS that can launch guided munitions from multiple kilometers away, they don’t need to be close to you in order to kill you.
There’s nothing ethical in camping ground spawn and tossing munitions onto people that spawned two seconds ago.
Considering how much money WT is making from selling premiums, I’m sure the game is already swarmed with those types of people.
I don’t see Air people having to adapt.
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they want to split the GRB player base which will increase time in the queue and leave the rest of us with less tanks to bomb.
i think we found the main problem with a TO mode right here. it was never about cas balance or tank players want cas
That’s a top tier issue, if you don’t like it play lower tiers or learn how to use your tank’s warning systems and smoke effectively.
Spawn protection exists for a reason. Honestly the #1 cause of spawn bombing is SPAA players that just sit in spawn. The #2 cause is bad teams that get pushed into spawn and can’t fight out.
Anyone who chooses to play WT instead of WoT is automatically a higher caliber of player. Our low skill casuals are better than the best players WoTs has to offer.
Have you played CAS or are you so consumed by your hatred of planes that you won’t even try them? Everyone who spawns a CAS plane has to play in a tank first, so the notion of “CAS Players” is kind of dumb. People who choose not to use planes are just denying themselves options.
AB exists already and has a stable player base. Sending people who can’t handle the reality of GRB back to AB where they belong is significantly less of a split than adding a whole new version of GRB.
Glad to see you took the bait so eagerly.
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Not true at all. You simply dont have the full arc of view even in fully open vehicles to counter CAS even at low BR maybe with the exception of the half tracks like Sdfz or M16 ,you can not hit what you cant see even with the best intention in the world.
I have learned a lot about CAS evasion from Jucy kuuki and I admire their positively for SPAA and its use but there are still huge problems and at mid tier you are not doing anything against fast props and early jets. Top tier speaks for itself, I dont need to replicate pages of complaints.
Just one thing , yes you can hide and you can spend your game not firing and cowering in the forest but you earn nothing doing that and what game participation do you get doing that and FFS do you come to play WT to do that?
er no because I own Premium CAS,you can see that cant you? When you go to stat shame check out how many kills are from CAS planes. My virtual ass is square from sitting in a IL 2and the PE8 is in my top ten kill per vehicle.I think I have more air kills in a Pe8 playing GRB than I have kills in any plane playing ARB. So huge BS there my friend.You are are a person who cant read a thread as much as he can write one : )
I bet WT arcade players love you : )
Says somebody who advocates flying aimlessly and lawn darting people while they are having the mother of all tank duels. Nothing quite like some skill free jack ass kicking you up the behind while you and you opponent are deep in the zone right? What was that about mindless play?
So you want CAS nerfed until CAS haters are appeased? yeah? Wow you are a true Champion of CAS aren’t you ?
So much is never going to happen until Gaijin get desperate and decide to make it happen.Its a forum dude if what is said here offends you switch off, go play the game and never come here to discuss what is missing from the game ever again.