SPAA is already plenty powerful. If anything, planes need a massive damage model buff. there’s 0 excuse for a single 20mm to 1-shot a plane
I’d also point out this isn’t war, this is a video game where reality is suspended in the name of balance.
So crying because you have a hard time strafing an anti aircraft gun doesn’t exactly garner sympathy.
I don’t think there’s much factual basis for either part of that statement.
I would agree that I would like to see better damage models across the board.
But a well placed 20mm HE round is all that you need to bring down just about any aircraft. Especially an av-gas plane from the 40’s.
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Again, it’s not rock paper scissors. it never was, it never will be. not irl, and not ingame.
a well placed pistol shot will 1-shot a plane. what’s your point?
Continuing to assert that simply makes it evident you don’t know enough about war.
It has ALWAYS been about countering the other guys ability.
You get better armor, I build a gun that can defeat your armor.
You bomb my infantry, I give them manpads to shoot you down.
Since arrows and plate armor it has always been a tactical back and forth. Attempting to paint it another way is pointless.
Then why do you want “buffed damage models” ?
yes, it’s an arms race, not rock paper scissors.
Because 20mm HE shouldn’t be dealing the same damage as a 30mm HE
That’s multiple 20mms v.s a single 30mm
But you just said that 1 well placed pistol shot can bring down a plane…. So I’m not sure that a 20mm HE or HEI should be nerfed……
You’re arguing the semantics of the name.
One guy gets a better plane, the other guy develops a better SPAA or missile. 🤷🏻♂️
buddy, a pistol bullet hitting a pilots brain and a 20mm HE hitting a tail are not the same thing.
then don’t use the term rock paper scissors.
But it is, and always has been. Since the inception of war.
And a single hit to the tail with a 20mm isn’t enough to destroy your plane, so it seems your argument is self defeating
no, it isn’t it never was, it never will be. It’s at most an arms race.
Irl, yes it’s not even nearly enough. In Warthunder, it deals the same damage as a 30mm HE and that’s the problem.
Ok. Horse lead to water and all
I can tell a significant difference in the impact between a 20mm and a 30mm on both fighters and bombers in WT.
I do not agree, nor do I believe you can show that a 20mm does the same damage as a 30mm in game
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they both 1-shot wings/tails and that’s all that matters
Not seeing a huge issue with that.
If you get a hit to a spar with a 20mm HE round, you’re not gonna shrug it off. And there’s no way to assess/prove the number of rounds that struck unless you’re firing single shot/very slow firing guns. And most of those pack enough HE to do the job in a single shell, so it’s not much of an issue.
There’s no reason it should 1-shot wings and tails
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There’s no reason it shouldn’t. Especially when many of the rounds are the Minengeschoß which is significantly more HE filler than standard 20mm and is specifically designed to cause catastrophic damage with minimal hits.
And again, you can’t prove how many rounds landed, or of what type
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