Why do CAS players so vocally oppose any suggestions

They do.

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Even then Pantsir,Tor M1 or İTO posses significant threat against anyone who doesnt have access to long range Agms aka Mavericks or PGM missiles (tho i still dont understand why Russia should have best Spaa in this case).

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Show me how you get a 2+ km kill with an aircraft reliably below 9.0 then. None of the kills from your videos were from such a range and everything within those 2 km is within the range of any SPAA in the game.

Aren’t guided bombs at 8.7?

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On which plane?

The lowiest of the SPAA’s can not even reach 1000m

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User error.

A-4E is a plane with guided bomba at 8.7 ;)

Error of air user if he dies from SPAA from 2km distance, that is right

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Muzzle velocity, turrent vertical range

Laughs in Veak 40

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Huh, forgot that thing exist, aside from A4E no other aircraft has guided bombs at 8.7 i assume?

Laughs at 6km distance ;)

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Can’t really check but that is an example You wanted

They can come through without a care regardless, so that point is kind of null and void.

Ah, yes, I will take my SAM SPAA to the front lines to drop some arty (that does not do much) once every 2 minutes, and repair other vehicles on the front line where they’ve been shot quite recently, and get in a cap with other people where I am but a big, fat, juicy, defenseless target.

Outstanding suggestions. But useless.

You’re a member of Densa aren’t you? An SPAA’s job is to kill planes. So… you know.

Anyway, for someone who wants a good discussion you sure do have a habit of deflecting, not answering, and generally being one of those people who keeps going “yeah but…”. Done talking to you, enjoy, you won! Hurrah!

See, that’s the thing. That’s the standard response by all pro-CAS players: just spawn a fighter. No, I won’t spawn a fighter. I’m playing GROUND RB - I shouldn’t have to spawn a fighter; I do not enjoy flying planes, I enjoy driving tanks.

Now tell me how to do it with an SPAA. Because either you can, and then we can have a discussion about it, or you can’t, in which case I’m done talking to you as well :)

Dude for real, you aren’t this dense. You know what I meant, and you choose to argue semantics now? Do I really need to spell it out like I would for a 5 year old?

Roland. Type 81(c). ItO 90M. You tell me if that’s insufficient range. The issue is not the range of the missiles. The issue is that you can’t fricking lock the low earth orbit guys because they are right above the play field inside the dead zone of the radar, and too far away for IRST to want to pick them up manually, and even if you could get a lock, you can’t elevate your launcher or barrels high enough to actually make the shot with proper lead

How often do I have to spell that one out?

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İn that case its Gaijin’s fault that A4E still sits at 8.7

Good luck with that.

Not much of a problem really

What weapon do you mean exactly?

You’re playing a mode where planes and helicopters takes a significant role on battlefield, like it or not this is how ground rb plays ever since it came out.

Refusing to adopting current environment will result more frustration for you.

İf only Gaijin adds similiar Sam systems that you can find on Russian Tree those problems wouldnt occur in the first place.

But apperently only Russia have luxury to get their hands on best spaa system you can find.

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