Why do CAS players so vocally oppose any suggestions

Yeah, which always was intended to be Combined arms by design,… calling it what you want → the term “Ground” does not limit the mode to that.

If it was called Ground Only Realistic Mode then it would be named.

GAIJIN always showed bad quality in communication, yet a titling gamemodes only proves it → why would naval have access to thei AA guns, if it wasn’t on the purpose designed to counter air threats?

Why would we have SPAAG SPAAM aswell?

Your argue refers to Gaijin inability to name things right (@Smin1080p another thing to do)

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I just pointed out the real name of the mode ;)

Which as i told you, does not reflect the intent of design, behind the mode itself,…

The fact is that the gamemode is made aeound tank gameplay doesn’t involve any limitation for other type of vehicule to it.

And still the name is “Ground Realistic mode”, no matter what You have to say about it, people expect it to be ground oriented

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And it is → the objectives are mostly accessibles to Tanks, and not aircrafts in most case.

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Oh gonna talk about caps won’t You?

This is what gaijin have said:
“As War Thunder is primarily a PvP focused game and getting kills is the ultimate goal to win battles

You’re making it really hard to keep sanity,… as your condescending ways to “discuss” things makes it edgy real fast…

All you ask for is to rename the gamemode → @Smin1080p is it possible, so people would stop complainning,…

This allows any kind of authorized vehicules for doing so.

Bases ensure win/loss bonus → which are also significant part.

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There is no balance between ground and air, meaning that air has a bigger chance at killing ground unit than other way around.

Gaijin saying that getting kills is:
ultimate goal to win battles
And planes being better at it, shows that mode is not oriented around ground really.

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Utlimate goal of having kills is reduce ennemy threat to reduce team capability to capture bases back.

The mode still requires those bases to be captured.

You can have 12 aircrafts, if a single tank is able to defend most capture point alone, he would be winning.

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So ground untis are there to only cap zones?

Again still can’t say that the gamemode is focused around ground.

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I would love to see how he defends himself against one 500kg bomb landing on top of him.

No,… you’re only seeing what you want here mate,… you again shows your stubborness to not see how the game is designed.

I’m gonna stop answering you as you’re enraged about having a TO, and don’t wanna see what is the gamemode about.

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The game is designed that way, that planes are only a cheap revange tool for people who don’t want to get good in tanks and need something to defeat a better player.

This is how they are implemented at the moment.

You are the one refusing to acknowledge how RB GFs work at the moment. There is a simple question which shows how things are:

Which is easier?

  1. Using a tank against +1 B.R. tank
  2. Using a plane with bombs agaisnt + 1 B.R. tank

And spare me the talk about needing to earn SP, as You only need to cap a zone to get into the aircraft with bombs ;).

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When will anti-CAS players accept the fact, it’s “Combined Battles” there are planes and tanks, period. They, being Gaijin, are not going to simply remove planes because some players cannot or will not learn to deal with them in some manner . . . other than complaining. I mainly fly planes, I enjoy them. I have been here a long time and played tanks since the were implemented and I used to have a great deal of fun playing tanks. . . . even with planes in there. I am by no means a very good tank player, but I manage . . . most of the time. . . lol. And being average or below in skill level playing tanks, I still rarely get killed by planes. Here’s a few reasons why - I play AB where planes are so nerfed/gimped they are barely worth flying, plus the number of planes in the air is limited by time & number. I do not sit still very long in one place and I never hang out in a “cluster” of other players . . . not by choice anyway. Several players sitting together is just asking for it . . . total bomb magnet . . . yet I see it all the time.
RB is a mess and it’s not planes/CAS, it’s how they are implemented . . the respawn point system is completely to blame for like 90% of the plane issue in that mode, main reason I do not play it. Players are going to do whatever gives them an advantage, scores them points with the least amount of risk/effort . . . . this is the way.
Instead of “hating” on the players that make good use of planes, or making demands(TANKS ONLY!! . . reeee) maybe learn to play the game you are given, work within the system to bring about changes. It’s the way planes are implemented in RB that is the problem i.e. - the respawn point system. Why not go to the source/root of the problem and see about getting that adjusted/removed(the way they do it in naval is far superior to the RB tank system).
Gaijin is not going to create a whole other mode for a segment of the player base and thin out the queues for tank battles even further. There are 3 modes for tank play, find the one that suits your play style the best and do that. The bickering and arguing back and forth is pointless, finding constructive solutions that work for/benefit the most players would be the ideal route to follow. Division among the players should be lessened, not made worse. It is not really an issue or a requirement to even “take sides”, it is a problem/issue that needs to be worked on. It’s not a matter of WHO is right, it is a matter of WHAT is right . . for the majority of the players and the game itself . . . . . “Go easy Bro” . . . . . this is the way

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Yeah, as a “pro-CAS” person. I’d have no issue with any of these.

Moving the heli-pads further away (or combining one with the main AF) could also mean a return of actual AA for the heli-pads.

The only aircraft though that should keep an airspawn is the medium/heavy bombers. Though they could still spawn a little lower and/or further away.

But yeah, I also heavily agree with the weather additions. Its one sure fire way to mitigate high alt bombing.

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Yeah, I agree, and I have been getting into GSB lately, I actually enjoy the ground combat in that more than I do in GRB, even though I can spawn in a plane whenever I want.

I do have a quite a few suggestions to mitigate CAS without nuking them, there is certainly some issues to be resolved, but I think that is the key word “resolve”. These issues could absolutely be fixed.

I mainly play AB for tanks & planes, I do however prefer RB for naval, and the differences between AB & RB are very slight compared to tanks & planes. For the markers, I only show the vehicle type and distance, that’s all the really matters . . . what is it, how far away is it. I agree about a good deal of things in game that basically amount to “taunting” and inspire/encourage rage induced “revenge” killing are not really needed. A MOD told me long ago about the names, and he stated that once he turned that part off, the “urge” to go after someone went away. I find it makes me more able to stay focused on the match/objectives or tasks I am working on. The “skull” icon should be removed. Less aggro/confrontational things between individual players and more incentive for team work would seem a better approach . . . but that’s just me and I understand it’s a war game . . .
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But there is still honor, sportsmanship and . . . code . . . we could use more of that stuff
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Sorry but SB spawning system is way worse than You describe it to be, and it would make the unbalance even bigger.

As again it won’t solve the issue.