in this case, since germany doesnt have a proper solid shot ap shell, not in the same sense as shermans and t-34’s have, they literally cant start with it. so they start with aphe by default, because there is nothing really much worse.
But their APCR is literally worse than APHE, worse than full caliber solid shot.
exactly.
that is why the sherman starts with solid shot now. its a bad shell. then they grind the tank, unlocking the better shell.
shouldnt that logic be across the board? all tanks? high tier tanks start with HEAT, which is obviously bad because every vehicle has anti heat armor.
shermans start with solid shot, cause its way worse than the aphe shell.
so why arnt russian 45mm and 76mm following the same logic?
Favoritism detected,
You’re not fair in this case, while the Pz. IV can start with a good APHE shell just because they don’t have “proper” solid AP shell it’s good?
But just because Russia is Russia they have to be bad as already is?
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Because the solid shot in those cannons actually has more penetration, so Gaijin doesn’t see it as worse. Even though practically it is worse.
Exactly what?
I said literally “What’s the point of getting a better stock shell, in this case the BR-350SP, for a worse one: BR-350A/B?”
This is not a Yes or No question.
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seriously, you were the only one in this conversation who didnt get it.
how you came up with chinese tank, or thought why chinese tanks had different equipment, while they literally use russian equipment is beyond my comprehension. its almost like if your entire setup was just to troll.
why are you trolling me? the solid shot is worse than the aphe shell…they start with the aphe shell. and they unlock the worse solid shot shell…
Really if one was to inspect every little tid bit of the game they would find 1000 contradictions and that would just be 1% of them.
It’s best to not lose sleep over it.
seriously, why is everyone who contributes to this thread talking as if htey never even did ground forces… first i got a dumb person who says chinese t-34 uses different shells than russian t-34’s. now someone who dont know that russian 45mm tanks starts with aphe. why are you guys trolling here…
BR-350SP is not worse than BR-350A or B, in fact, the best pen values over those, as usual,
So again I ask: What’s the point of giving for free, >>stock<<, the BR-350SP which is >>better<< and having to research BR-350A/B that’s is >>worse<<?
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Because it’s not fair giving the best shell stock and leaving the worse one to research?
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BR-350SP is not better than BR-350B. 3 extra mm of penetration is pretty much meaningless compared to the actual ability to guarantee critical damage with explosive filler, which is made even more so important by the fact that Russian tanks generally have poorer reloads, so one shotting versus not is very important.
You POS lol. You never showed anything more than a obscure statcard that from my casual engangement only told me it was a chinese vehicle, why are you getting so mad about me asking you to clarify yourself?
you shoot the 350sp in the rear of the crew compartment. it might kill the gunner. or a commander. it might pass through without leaving any result.
the 350A/B shell penetrates, and explode inside that crew compartment. having 1 shot potential.
the difference is the explosive part. its simply how this game works. APHE has always been the better shell due to the one shot potential. the only reason why solid shot is better over aphe is when it has incredible better penetration values, like with the british 17 pounder.
If you think Russian starter ammo is always better than other countries for God sake don’t be tempted to dabble in naval as there is a shocker that proves the exception to the rule…
Russia’s reseve ship is the Novik-class, Frunze, 1940. 4x 102mm sounds OK but the default shell is Shrapnel! You barely damage other ships with a mere 5mm penetration, and against PT boat you really do need more than ball bearings.
Be thankful for small mercies.
i still dont understand why that matters. the chinese t-34 literally is a russian t-34. you can check it ingame. even the modifcation screen of the chinese t-34 1943 is identical to the russian t-34 1942. its literally the same tank. but you tried to blame it on “its chinese” to prove…whatever you tried to prove. im still unsure what you tried to prove with that poor attempt of incompetence.
IDK man, 150g of TNT are quite a lot of boom at those lower BRs.
Useful, so you don’t have to surgically remove each crew from the other tank.
Penetration might be the around same, but post pen damage is way higher with APHE.
You never said what vehicle it was so how could i have know that it was from the soviet tech tree. Its quite simple no reason to over think it