My last game was litterally a teamkilling paradise. the enermy team did it, and one of my “teamates” killed me cause he was too ass to get one kill. like its happened to me 2 games inn a row and its anoyying like you guys need to implement getting crew locked for 20 mins if someeone kills you, people teamkill on purpose beacuse -15K SL is literally not a punishment you can make that back from 0.5 games. or if u teamkill on purpose ur account should be suspended for like 2 hour, and everytime it happens it goes up by an hour
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Wrong, players are being banned for team killing! Just look at the reports made available by the company. It’s always a good idea to open a report with the match replay attached and a few words describing what happened.
BUT, not everything is intentional… We see friendly fire happening all the time in Air Battle…
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They do get banned. Constantly.
There are also manual bans that are applied to those that try to go around the automatic system, the largest of those bans are announced together with the Cheat bans every month (many more are issued, it’s just the largest bans that are listed). Here is a quote from the last one:
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Accidents happen, so there needs to be a buffer for that, but any player that does actually TK consistantly gets a 48 hour ban initially that escalates quickly if they keep doing it
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The lowest seems to be 24h if the support page about it is still correct:
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bro he literally did it on purpose beacuse i got a kill he wanted and he straight up tked me
2-3 TK’s is instantly enough
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Hmm… Might have changed then in more recent years. Back when learning ASB I got a 48 ban for accidental TKs. But this was like 4 years ago
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2 in a match should already kick you from the match and have a hefty SL penalty. But a ban because of a mistaken bomb release or something would be kinda extreme
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one delibirate teamkill isnt enough for a kick. i think it should be like if you lock someone on purpose and shoot them and they die you should be kicked or crew locked
I’m guessing the system takes things like that into account.
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That sounds like it would be VERY hard to detect automatically though. IR missiles can sometimes go for teammates on their own and i’ve seen issues/bugs pop up occasionally where a radar missile completely ignores the radarlock and flies to the side and hits a teammate instead. There has to be some sort of buffer for accidents as well. Though most times it’s the result of negligence and not actually an accident, but that a different discussion.
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Sim exists. Identification errors are common when you’re using planes without radar/IFF as you only get friendly markers within 900m. Having copy-paste planes in different tech trees doesn’t help.
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I have accidentally team killed once in my 11.3 plane, I was sursprised that the per sky was so low at around 50k. You should probably get an hour cooldown or something for team killing an multiple games in a day, so that people can’t do it repeatedly.
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I would suggest sending a private message to a Game Master through the forums here if you encounter an extreme example like you described. I do not want to volunteer @Necronomica myself, @Necronomica if you could reply and give your approval for @Loofah to DM you, I think that would be appropriate in this circumstance.
@Loofah I have reported many very intentional team killers in the past, and they have gotten permanently banned. Only once did I need to DM a Game Master, and it was taken care of.
This does not matter. EVERY team kill is recorded in each player’s “permanent record”. Even if the replay site does not list the game anymore. If he has hundreds or thousands of team kills, the Game Masters can see it.
I feel your frustration, your aggravation is warranted. But I would still encourage you to try and reach out to an appropriate Game Master if you see an extreme intentional team killer like that. It is never too late for such players to face appropriate punishment.
And on the subject of your posts getting hidden, if you did not break any forum rules, you can edit your post after a few minutes and it will unhide it. And if it does get hidden again, and you did not break any rules, a forum mod should unhide it eventually.
EDIT:
I obviously do not know the circumstances surrounding what happened to you, but do want to point out out a couple things:
First, Forum Mods =/= Game Masters. Game Masters are the ones who can deal with cheaters/team killers etc.
Second, there are rules against discussing individual actions taken against players. Both for cheaters/team killers, and for any punishments you might have received. Both in game and here on the forums.
So, again, I would encourage you to DM a Game Master. And suggest not discuss any individual player who may be breaking the rules, and likewise not discuss publicly any actions taken on your account either.
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So like this one time a guy kept popping smoke on my friend, basically not TKing but griefing him. So I bombed that player so that my friend could play without getting smoked all match…
Would this result in me getting a ban for helping my friend? Or would the player who pops smoke get a ban for ruining people’s game?
Tked 7 times in 5 different matches.
And they were all from the same guy…
What happened was, when I was fighting in a Rhine match I accidentally tked him with a Hellfire bc he drove infront of the AA that I was aiming for.
After that he respawned and killed me I said it was okay bc I tked him.
But after I spawned back in my M1128 he purposely bombed me with a GBU.
After that match had ended I started another and he was in that match too he saw me and kept pushing me into the enemy when I told him to stop he started badchatting and telling me to get out of the way and to stop being a bad tm8.
After I had died I spawned into the RAH66 and tried to takeoff before he bombed the helipad.
This happened over and over untill I stopped playing 11.3.
I forgot his username bc of how annoyed I was about his consistent tk’ing.
Oh and also he was a lvl 43 WW who had the F18 Early, Prem Apache, CB, RDF, Wolfpack, T80U-E1, F4S, SU30, and pzbt 123…
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Same advice, see my post above: Why are there no actual consequnces for teamkillers? - #18 by SilentTracker
Ah, you read it already 👍
So, I am obviously NOT a Game Master, do not take what I am going to say as “the law”. Until/unless a Game Master gives you a direct answer.
Having said that, I can tell you from what I have read that BOTH of you could face punishment. First for the guy who is “Griefing” with smoke grenades, and for you TK’ing that Griefer. The best thing for you to do (and/or your friend) is to make a report about Griefers through the replay site. All TK’s are kept track of on your “permanent record”. They never go away, there is no cooldown period. Therefore, it is best to avoid any and all TK’s, especially intentional ones. There will always be accidental TK’s so adding intentional ones to your total TK’s could get you in trouble. Report TK’ers and Griefers and move on with your day, ignore them as best as you can 👍 (I try not to even chat to them during or after a match. Many of them crave negative attention. Do not give it to them.)
First, find the match you played with the Griefer by using the replay site I linked below. Easiest way to find the matches that you played is to check the box that says “Replays including my participation” (see Screenshot #1), click on the drop down arrow top right of appropriate match (Screenshot #1)
Then, find the Griefer’s name, click on “!” next to their name, and then use the appropriate report description. For a Griefer/TK’er the appropriate option would be “Unsportsmanlike conduct”. Enter the details, fill out the time of the event. If there are multiple events, enter the time for the first instance of their offenses. (Screenshot #2)
I would recommend only using this reporting method for significant issues so that the Mods/Game Masters who review these reports do not have more work to do than necessary. For low priority/low significance reports, imo the in game reporting feature is the better option. All in game reports are recorded and tallied, and the offending player will be dealt with eventually if they are an habitual offender.
Replay Site:
https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/
Screenshot #2:
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Thanks for your time explaining this to me. But I am not looking to report that player, this happened a long time ago so I wouldn’t even know their tag. In the end I took the law into my own hand so to speak, so that person paid lol but I will keep this in mind if someone bullies in the future.
I usually avoid TKing, the only times it happens is when a team mate is in serious trouble due to a tank wrecking them at extremely close range and they usually forgive me for it cause they were dead anyway and wanted that other tank to pay.
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