It’s actually embarrassing how bad they are…
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1-multipathing againt fox3 that most multisam has
2-DIRCM againt irist-slm aim9x, python5 and other IR missile
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Pantsir, ADATs, and ITO still pretty effective.
Use SACLOS SPAA for helis.
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Technically speaking, shouldn’t radar-based gun SPAAGs also be pretty effective against early-game helicopter rushes?
Since OP is explicitly mentioning multi vehicle SPAAs its safe to say the topic is about top tier, where rocket rushing helis arent issue due to abundance of IFVs with IRST.
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Yes, I am aware they’re talking about top tier. I’m merely curious if some frustrated soul has bothered taking say a Gepard or other autocannon AA up in there to see if it swats the helicopters better than the fancy new SAMs do.
At 10.7 or so id agree. I run both gepard AND osa for different scenarios.
But!
At top tier the issue is different. The threat posed by firstspawn rocket heli rush is diminished by the fact that most IFVs have IRST, proxy ammo or both, and agaisnt later spawn of top tier helis with FnF missiles Gepard wont do much.
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Because they seemingly haven’t modeled rotor radar returns. So they have to be broadside to your radar to return anything and keep a lock.
That’s how it seems, but I’m just getting back into the game.
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IRCM against heatseekers, and ive noticed if a Fox-3 like missile is shot at me I just start to hover and stabilize my heli ASAP and launch chaff and flares. Fox-3s have a lookdown mode (mainly used if they are engaging a target from above) where they will ignore any stationary targets. Chaff isnt fast but it moves so the Missile ends up ignoring its intended target. Still SACLOS SPAAs are the most effective and I consider them the most dangerous.
Helicopters are badly modeled
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But it feels like Multipathing isnt as effective because most AMRAAM and Fox-3-like missiles have a lookdown mode where they ignore stationary targets and are able to hit moving ones.
Helicopters have the coolest running engines in the entire game for no apparent reason lol
They started giving helis somewhat accurate heat sigs and and directional exhausts but never adjusted any of the code for any of the missiles because they havent done the same with jets yet. So they are in this wierd limbo of being way too “cold”, because they are probably more accurately model than jets.
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If you have a heli with LDIRCM, you need to hover and the only way a SPAA or jet can kill you is if they gun you, hit you with a SACLOS missile, or hit you with a LGM/LGB