gaijin: leclerc totally fine
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ah, thats unfortunate
I am grinding through the chinese tree currently and they do look cool even if they’re bad ;/
The sad thing is they balance tanks through stats, the worst situation one tank is in, the less people play them. Those who left are the ones have decent performance in them, especially the nation has less player base. Some nation has their mbt in 12.0 because the limit is there, some of them are there because they are just end of the line mbt.
It’s both by stats and by making so there is always a top tier, that is why there isn’t any 11.3 leclerc or that ariete is not slightly lower same for otomatic etc.
Results are skewed because many of you don’t play China. VT-4A1 should be much higher in the results. Chinese MBTs have one of the worst rounds at top-tier, some of the poorest protection, missing spall liner and other features (like others in the list). But here is the kicker: Unlike the WZ1001 and ZTZ-99A that can make up for some downsides with really good mobility and reverse speed - the VT4 is much slower.
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Didn’t even think about APS and KH-38. How reliable is it at stopping it?
There are different answers to this question in the Chinese community, but - I think Ariete is the worst.
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VT-4A1 is positively hilarious in terms of how bad it is.
The only good aspect about it is probably the APS and how it can save you from CAS, but that’s about it.
Despite the 99A being a very meh tank, which Gaijin modeled its armor and firepower completely wrong, it at least has mobility on its side.
The VT-4A1 is the 99A with even larger weakspots and it loses out on the mobility completely. It has a worse power-to-weight ratio and the reverse speed is even worse than the 99A.
Chinese MBTs are no different to NATO tanks in how they are treated by Gaijin. Aka gimped.
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thats unfortunate about the chinese tanks, I decided to select them as my first eventual top tier ground nation lmao
Top-tier is only one part of the tree. Many fun lineups to be had for China. Worth grinding it. And they’ll fix China top-tier, eventually. WZ1001 and ZTZ-99A are usable tanks, it’s just whatever they’ve decided to do with the VT-4A1. No idea why it has a gimped engine, it shouldn’t. They know this, but haven’t acted. That’s why it gets my vote. Not because it is worse than some of the others on the list (i.e, Ariete) - but because of how badly they’ve botched it and simply have moved on and forgotten about it.
yea I’m at 6.7 in the tree atm so its far away in any case, I don’t really have any intentions to stop going either way
99A/WZ1001 are good MBTs, it’s just the VT4A1 that’s an absolute meme.
yee, ig I’ll see when I get there
Fairly sure it does. At least providing they’ve not been used by spikes or other atgms first
Personally the worst singular tank is the ariete as its just made of glass HOWEVER I personally think the worst top tier tanks in 1 tech tree goes to russia as you can guarantee a 1 shot from any angle everytime. Front, sides, back, corners, guaranteed 1 shot kill every single time. Other tanks yes there are 1 shot kills spots its not a 100% guarantee and kts not from every angle. Also Russia’s terrible reverse speed and depression.
Playing the tanks for what they are actually made for, i think they Leopards/Strv’s and Challengers may be the best tanks. Abrahms is meh.
Meanwhile. Every soviet tank I fight is a fairly consistent 2 shot kill and they 1 shot me every single time
Who tf in the right mind vote Leopard 2A7 T-90M and T-80BVM lol
plus, Italian main probably don’t care about Ariete anymore.
Unironic skill issue, only time it ever takes multiple hits to take out a Soviet MBT is if I’m doing a disabling shot first. But those aren’t intended to kill anyway.
Random Reddit user: Gaijin loves Russian and Chinese tanks, they hate all NATO things!
Besides, random Tieba user: Gaijin loves Russian and Sweden, they hate China like all Slavics!
Though I’m a air main and know less about ground, VT4A1 is really a bad thing, even compare to Ariete— worst reload time, 577mm pen, not so-better armor, worse mobility. Maybe APS is it’s only advantage?
But for these who loves modern vehicles they need more time to spent to get what they want. This is called sunk cost. And for China TT it becomes even worse cause most of their domestic vehicles is at least cold war vehicles.
The number of times I’ve hit the ammo rack in a soviet tank for it to just turn and fire is insane