Not really the fault of M1A2. M1A2 is one of the best MBT behind the Leo2A7/Strv122 and the T-90M. Great firepower, adequate mobility, armour is mediocre but sufficient, and great “soft qualities” such as depression, turret traverse speed, reverse.
Due to many premium players in US, US mains are universally known to be terrible at top tier on average, even by themselves.
The end is besides the point though.
I honestly don’t really know about velocity but I am sure of the fact that for decades it’s been agreed upon imparting extra spin on a dart is bad. It doesn’t make them more accurate and in fact makes them less I’m quite sure. The rifling was for the hesh round, and only that.
I’m pretty sure even the challenger 3 will be a smoothbore gun.
So I think you’re wrong man.
Edit: In fact I just went and looked it up.
You are correct the rifling lowers velocity. It also lowers accuracy as the spin is bad because of its long rod and the point of the fins add more accuracy through stabilization and slight spin than if you tried to spin stabilize it like a bullet(hesh round).
So yeah man, smoothbore is better for a dart. Rifling is better for more bullet-type rounds, and the gun isn’t inherently more accurate because it’s rifled. Unless we’re sneaking only about a hesh round which no one really uses and for the U.S. for example we use fin stabilized rounds for eveything.
Yes CR3 has changed to smoothbore but yeah, they kept rifled purely for HESH because it proved incredibly valuable in OP Granby on the CR1s
But the interopability (made apparent by a certain eastern conflict) and the increase in drone warfare and guided weapons (like ground launch Brimstones) has mitigated the value of HESH.
L27A1 though should be a way more potent shell than it is in game.
Both smoothbore and rifles are roughly equal in accuracy due to the fin stabilised rounds that negate the need for rifling but fired from a rifled barrel causes drag
That goes for every toptier tank, well, with the exception of Leopard 2 and both Russian and Chinese toptiers.
Ragebait or clueless?
I think we were both confused. Smoothbore more range and velocity, can use any 120mm smoothbore round and HEAT. Rifled more accurate. Can use only the CHARM 2/other Rifled barrel shells and HESH.
Wouldn’t rifled cannons be similarly accurate to smoothbore cannons? Considering both fire fin-stabilised projectiles after all.
Edit: Specifically when firing APFSDS rounds
101% Agreed the CHARM 2 was made specifically to penetrate Russian frontal armour with the full C2 firing sequence starting from the command of “Load Sabot” and ending with “Target” or “Target Stop” taking between 4 and 4.5secs while aiming for centre mass of the spotted target from a tree line miles away.
Its designed and made to be a 1 shot K-KILL shell.
We need a premium leclerc. UAE Leclerc would be a W premium.
I’m surprised france hasn’t gotten a top tier mbt pack yet
I assume it’ll happen soon though, likely some sort of middle eastern leclerc
it will get the first high tier bundle pack
a pair of netherlands 2A4s and a roland
I really want to grind france as i think the leclerc’s are quite underrated. Waiting for a leclerc premium.
More accurate when using a hesh round, as the means of stabilizing it is spin stabilized. The sabots themself on the cr2 remove the spin, they have a ring on them that counteracts the spin so when fired it comes out just like a smoothbore with little spin.
The rifling is only relevant to the hesh round, or if we were using apds.
They’re all accurate to get the job done at km’s away, just through different means lol
Yeh ur right. Been a while since i looked at it all. 🤝
Brother, I had to go look at it again to even have this conversation. I only had a rough memory of it lol
Just buy the AMX-30 Super. France is the last country untainted by premium spammers.
The AMX-30 Super is genuinely amazing at its tier. It’s among my most played vehicles.
That Simpson meme would fit so well right now.
What people put abrams or leclerc as worst top tier mbts? They are one of the best
I was tempted to talk about the Chinese tanks, they aren’t amazing, and for some reason that gets glossed over due to them being Eastern designs and having the carryover reputation from when Russia was insane around 2020-2022.
I still think that them having some forwards mobility makes them slightly preferable to the Challenger 2s though, as the increased turret protection on the Challies doesn’t do much of anything then the entire hull is a weak spot and you still have the universal breech one.
Leclercs are the middle of the road I would say, putting the SEP Abrams down as the worst is outright trolling.