Don’t forget the Tejas for the Brits, seeing as India is official and all
You seem to have missed literally the entire thread. The replies paint a better picture, it is a simple request for parity among other nations. I don’t know where you got that from.
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And when has parity ever been guaranteed in the time span of just one update? look at Pantsir, ICE etc. There is only the correlation of improvement of parity with time and so far this update isn’t even out. The bad news is you will have to wait, the devs made the decision of what they wanted to implement (and to be fair they probably were quite time pressured) and now they can’t magic F-2s,Su-30s and F-18s out of the air
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that’s not really our problem, is it?
they could have pushed the update a little bit back.
and we as a player base should voice our opinions and constructive critique, not suck it all up as “well X nation suffered for a while, now it’s our turn”
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that’s just victim mentality “they(prob. some trolls) ridiculed us, so now we will ridicule you”
again noone here talks about deminishing or nerfing EFT or Rafale, all we need is parity between nations, cuz atm power creep is so much worse, cuz F-15E/I , EFT and Rafale are at the same BR as J-11A, Su-27SM, F-16C and Jas39C, FFS. It’s like if F-4F KWS was at the 13.7…
And i’m not even talking about 12.7 planes that see 13.7 monsters on live, now they would even meet EFT and Rafale…
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Just like the f15e… How many people spent golden squirrels to unlock it, then 1-2 days later poof balanced 🤣
My point isn’t this rather that parity takes time to come.
Idk what you are referring to here
Devs are committed to December updates (before Christmas) as it’s one of the best times for revenue.
Also you underestimate the development time here, we know that they are testing aircraft a while in advance and this was likely the case for just the Euro fighter and Rafale. Hence they had 3D models with some work on FM already.
If other 4.5 gen aircraft were to come all at once it would probably push the update to February as developers get time off in start of January.
that was said in correlation to the statement bellow, cuz the point of “them making a decision and being time pressured” isn’t our problem, if those decisions make game worse by bringing more imbalance.
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and this still isn’t our problem, it should have gone in the fashion of Update 2.37 “Seek & Destroy”, i know that they didn’t make the best case there and should have added F/A-18C in the same 2.37 update, but it was the most “balanced” update and gen 4.5 aircraft should have come the same way, to all nations at once.
They could have done this, but some times they don’t take this route. And this time they need the hype for this update as the company is motivated by money not opinions.
and we as a playerbase should be taking into account balance, not going into their(developers) shoes and defending poor strategies, such as adding an OP vehicle to some nations and not adding similar vehicles to the other (pantsir, F-15E/I, EFT/Rafale etc)
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also dev just got updated to .26 and even developers themselfs admitted that F-15E/I, EFT and Rafale are different from all the other aircraft by changing their BR to 14.0, wich means they(developers) knew this fact as well, when they added F-15E/I a month ago, just as @Bad_Karmaツ said:
Next big air update may well be the SU-30SM, JAS 39E, and J-10B/C which would bring the current worst top tier nations up to the level of the Eurofighter, Rafale, and F-15E/I.
Two of those aircraft have been leaked already, and the Gripen E doesn’t seem like too much of a stretch bringing it’s A2A loadout up to par with the rest of top tier by adding two pylons
Likely the 2nd update of the year
I’m more trying to address unrealistic expectations, and if I was the decision maker at Gaijin I would be doing the same. They want their bonuses and so would I.
yeah, they may be unrealistic, but we should still voice our opinions and not mute others by saying “we suffered enough, now it’s your turn”
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List of another 4.5 generation fighter
🇺🇸 : F-15EX and F/A-18C/D (integrated AN/APG-79(V)4 AESA radar)
🇨🇳 : J-11BG, J-11BHG, J-15T, F-16V & F-16C/D Block 72 (🇹🇼), J-10CE & JF-17C (🇵🇰)
🇮🇱 : F-15IA
🇬🇧 : Rafale EH, Su-30MKI & Tejas Mk.1A (🇮🇳), F/A-18F (🇦🇺), CF-18A HEP (🇨🇦)
🇯🇵 : Gripen E (🇹🇭), Su-30MKM (🇲🇾), F-16D+ Late & F-15SG (🇸🇬), KF-21 & Rafale F4 (🇮🇩)
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In case of the F-16V, US has no F-16V
Nations having ordered the latest F-16V are Bulgaria, Bahrain, Morocco, Jordan, Slovakia and Taiwan.
F-16i Sufa, is a Block 52+ Aircraft and does not feature all F-16V features. Although lots of stuff is done by Israel itself, I would not call it a gen 4.5. Sufa has no APG-83 AESA Radar.
Swedens 4.5 gen fighter is practically just the Gripen E, which the Italians technically have from the EBS HU, but it’s a super toned down E.
(E should have the ‘Raven’ AESA ES-05A radar, which is arguably way too advanced in the current meta with the paired airframe and weapons that would come with it)
Not in production, true, but PoBIT is bringing older blocks to Block 70 standard
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When have I said this, I have never suffered as I don’t play top tier yet.
My point is rather we can’t make a difference other than sitting still and waiting.