Yeah. I’m not buying it, they’re not on par with fighters and they’re not even useful as interceptors. I can understand if skilled players, or a coordinated squad can surprise you with a bomber mounting cannons but it’s hardly abuse.
I don’t think you’ve got a case here.
lmao play without bringing a brain and get 7kd = pain
So the original poster said he’s frustrated with these 3.7 dive bombers being used as bomber interceptors with their air spawn, which is very fair, and a whole lot of you belittle him becuse you think its a bad fighter.
Hes not saying they’re good fighters, hes saying theyre OP bomber interceptors, which they are. These are aircraft that have powerful forward firing cannons, and gunpods for two of the helldivers, that gets a bomber spawn.
These aircraft 100% club other medium bombers, such as the B25, B34, HE111, and PE2. All of which by the way spawn at the same altitude, have less powerful forward firepower, are less maneuverable, and some arent even comparable in speed.
Thats the problem, not the fact people are trying to dogfight a P51 in them. They’re using them as bomber interceptors and its duscuting how efficient they are at this.
They should get rid of all air spawns.
What about bombers or other non fighter aircraft?
A better solution would be to not tie airspawns to rank/class, but make it vehicle specific. Something like the Wyvern or F-84G shouldn’t have an airspawn, but heavy bombers, the vautour, F-84Fs, and other bombers/strike planes need one.
Most bombers I see just go straight into the enemy and die. Or they get lucky and remain untouched until the very end because they’re in space and the enemy team has to resort to killing ai.
They should make changes so that bombers and fighters reach the middle of the map more or less at the same time so escorts happen naturally.
As it is, bombers are only played because players cant otherwise get points to progress. Game mechanics shouldnt cater to these players.
Or how about everyone gets an airspawn :3
That would be the best solution.
I agree, today I literally saw a guy with a 17 K/D in a B7A2 Homare with around 1400 kills. If that doesn’t show the vehicle is too good I don’t know what will
imo the minimum requirement to get a bomber spawn is to have a bombsight.
B7A2 would still keep it’s bomber spawn but planes like Ju-87s (there’s a 3.3 one with 20mils), SB2Cs and many others and would give a little much needed breathing room for regular bombers that already have it hard enough.
I know that dives started from very high alt but in war thunder it’s more effective to start dives at lower alts.
maybe setting the bomber spawn further behind fighters would help
because I get “escort me pls” like dude, I need to climb to something that is speeding away
Also it may give bombers a chance to cross after the main fighter carnage is over and most of the cases everyone is at lower altitudes, where they would have to climb back and assure at least 1 base destroyed
I am not sure if you play often on the large Kamchatka (not the “East” variant) there is for one team the bomber spawn way behind the northern airfield.
I described it here:
So at least in theory the bombers spawning in the north have a higher survival and drop chance as they spawn 11 km behind their own airfield and they are far enough away from the center of the map allowing own interceptors to fight enemy interceptors.
The reality shows that the majority of current bomber players are unable to use this tactical advantage as they refuse to climb and even start slight high speed dives towards bases.
So with reference to the OP (who has stopped playing):
This map allows even B-25s to get above 6 km - and i reached 6.5 km in the US B-17 there. As these altitudes SB2Cs are no threat, they are slow like hell.
Even Sterlings can get there and have way better chances to get something done.
Dying to this meme playstyle is pure skill issue.
When will Gaijin lower the Tu-4 and B-29 BR then…
It’s not a meme play style. SB2C-5 and B7A2 are legitimately very dangerous fighters when given an altitude advantage.
They are very slow. They don’t have a very good turn rate and climb rate. Fighter still somhow end up in higher attitude then both of this 2 aircraft.
At 3.7, most ppl don’t climb. When I do see som1 higher than me, I just avoid em.
welp it look like it mostly new player then i guess.
Don’t head on them? Dying to these is ridiculous unless you are in a bomber. They can’t turn and when they do they lose all their energy, they don’t accelerate well, can’t climb at all, all people do in them is bait noobs into head ons with their good guns and hunt strikers.