I have tried this with vehicles and shells where the protection analysis will say it is not possible. I have experienced this with smaller shells as tiny as the Gepard DM11A1 (HEI-T shell - with 9mm pen) - i ones made a bug report.
so over pressuring by shooting the tracks?
What are you talking about? The title explains nothing
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Am I crazy? I am talking about when HE shell overpressure by hitting an exploting on tracks, destroying the tank. I have most of my time playing heavy tanks, incidently this is when it has happens to me. the he-shells that I have experienced killing me this way, have been from a wide range of sizes, from Gepard DM11A1 (specificly the HEI-T shell) and much bigger sizes as well.
I am talking about when HE shell overpressure by hitting an exploting on tracks, destroying the tank. I have most of my time playing heavy tanks, incidently this is when it has happens to me. the he-shells that I have experienced killing me this way, have been from a wide range of sizes, from Gepard DM11A1 (specificly the HEI-T shell) and much bigger sizes as well.
Yes, specificly when they hit the tank from the front or side on the track, overpresuering the hull when the shell otherwise would not be able to do so on the actual armor of the tank. I hope I am making sense
I haven’t played much lately but if that’s true that’s a huge issue, that should really be an instant fix
I think it is pretty old, but it is kinda rare. Stupid non the less
Not a bug.
Many/most tanks have significantly thinner armor on the underside of the upper hull that overhangs the tracks. In this case the IS-2 is modelled with 25mm of armor on the underside of the hull. So a HE round that throws fragments with 37mm of pen will penetrate thru there when it detonates against either the hull side or tracks.
Why it seems to do it “only” when hitting the tracks, is that if you hit the hull side square, the tracks add over 37mm of RHA value, and it doesn’t pen. Its only if you hit them or above is it less.
You can make the simulation yourself, the HE shell is not hitting the track on the load bearing part, but when they are resting on the return rollers… There is a 90mm side plate there
I just did. Rotate the camera position “down” so you are looking up at the underside of the tracks, turn off “external armor view” and mouse around and you will see the plate is only 25mm. When you run the sim, you will see that there is no fragments going straight thru the sideplate only the ammo hitbox is damaged. This is because its not rendering the fragments bouncing around.
i will take a look
This can not be explained beyond a false calculation of overpressure:
The shell hits above the tack resting on the return rollers, not the track itself this time. All the fragments and pressure is dispersed on this part of the track and hitting the side of the armor causing the overpressure. Its a bug (period)
This is the same shell hitting the weight bearing part of the tracks, and it does not brake the underside of the chassis.
Ahh not I get it. Thanks. But it only explains this instance. the other which I cant produce in the protection analysis are definently a bug. unfortunantly my replay i sent to the bug report can not be replayed do to it being outdated, otherwise I could show it. :(
Try the same thing with any other tank that has hull overhang the tracks. Shermans are a good choice.
Moral of the story is don’t let anyone shoot you in the side with anything.
What are you trying to teach me? Thanks for showing it was a bad example. the point still stands, unfortunantely I cant reproduce it, but the bug which is difficult to explain, I know its sound vauge, and I might sound crazy - still exists.
Nano gaming and I explained to you that it isn’t a bug. Its an artifact of the game that is based on the real physics and modelling. That it didn’t really happen IRL, because no one was dumb enough to fire HE in direct fire at tanks, is a separate issue.
Just accept and file it away in your brain when you are playing.