I can’t get an actual answer for why the Radwagon is a higher br than the Rooikat MTTD, and I figured there would be somebody who could explain it to me. If you look in-game for yourself, and compare the two vehicles, the Radwagon is unarguably worse. Here’s a stat comparison (left being radwagon and right being MTTD)
Top speed (km/h) : 100 < 125
Max pen : 408 = 408
Turret traverse (base) : 16.4 < 23.8
Reload Rate (base) : 7.9 < 6.7
Engine Power to weight : 23.8 hp/T > 17.9 hp/T
Despite all of the major advantages the MTTD has over the Radwagon, it is an entire BR BELOW it, and to top it off, the Radwagon doesn’t get thermals even though the MTTD does? Is there a reason for this? I understand that the Radwagon reaches it’s top speed a bit quicker than the MTTD, but does that really make it a 10.0 vehicle?
Radkampf has always been at a very questionable BR, to be a wheeled vehicle at 10.0 without thermals or anything is kinda crazy.
It does have a bit more armor than most wheeled vehicles which is nice, but I don’t think that makes it a 10.0 vehicle.
This means it should almost on par with the M1128 that gets gen 3 thermals, almost double the turret rotation speed, roughly the same reload speed unless you have ace crew in the Radkampf, over a 100mm more pen and a .50 cal… which I don’t think showcases a .3 difference.
It’s closer to a Centauro 105 R with similar pen, similar reload, similar turret rotation, but here the Centauro gets gen 2 thermals on top and LWS but a lower BR.
The best possible reload for both is 6.7s. Top speed difference doesn’t matter. Mobility is better on the Rad90 at ~27 hp/t compared to the MTTDs ~20 hp/t. Thermals aren’t a huge advantage anymore and the Rad90 is much more survivable.
9.3 and 10.0 are fine for both although the MTTD should have stayed at 9.0 with DM23.
Centauro ROMOR has gen1 thermals.
It also has much worse mobility and gun depression than Rad90, which are two pretty important metrics for any light vehicle. It’s armor is also worse so only positive ROMOR has is it’s gen1 thermals. Almost forgot, ROMOR has no smoke grenade launchers as well.
This is why I think Rad90 should be a step above Centauro.
If you think those two are undertiered then you’ll surely think XM8 is as well. That thing is basically a better Centauro in most metrics that has a slightly worse round and lacks LWS.
Those two should never share same BR.
the radpanzer has more armour. it’s also not bad at its battle rating at the moment. sub par, maybe, but definitely not bad. although, i used to play 9.7 a ton with it but not anymore.
Wheeled tanks don’t have stupid survivability.
Even if you consider they do, Centauro still lags far behind in terms of mobility, gun handling, gun depression and reload speed, which are all crucial metrics for a light tank.
As I said, it has a slightly better round but you’ll still have to aim at the same weakspots, and it has a LWS which will be helpful to get out of dang… oh wait, Centauro lacks smoke grenades to do just that.
In a perfect world, these two should never share the same BR.
Mobility is one of the most important things on a lot of maps and the MBTs at that BR have to flank too but can’t thanks to these lights.
Wheeled tanks are barely faster around a lot of the maps than MBTs, any desert/snow/mud/mater makes them significantly worse, and with how small the maps are the advantage is minimized as well that I don’t see it worthy of a BR increase.
What a weird comparison. The Rooikat explodes when anything looks at it. The Rad survives stuff it probably shouldn’t. There lies the difference. The Rooikat having a trash-tier thermals system doesn’t make up for this.
No they don’t. That’s like you keep hitting the engine on MBTs from the side, complaining how many rounds you have to spend in order to kill them.
18.6 HP/t vs 31.3 HP/t.
22.8 degrees/s vs vs 42 degrees/s (all aced).
6 degrees of gun depression vs 10 degrees of gun depression.
How you still haven’t caught up that I’ve been talking about Centauro vs XM8 ?
Latter is at 9.7 and is objectively better than former, but you keep saying former is somehow undertiered at 9.7 lol.
You’re talking about survivability as if we’re discussing heavies, not lights.
XM8 is more than relevant since it’s a direct counterpart to Centauro and Rad90, doesn’t really matter if it’s on wheels or tracks.
Or maybe XM8 is the only thing that’s undertiered in this discussion ?
Rad90 is a single BR step above it and has a slightly better shell with frontal armor being immune to autocannons. On the other hand, it loses out on mobility, reload speed, gun handling and thermals.
Those two should just switch places, Centauro is perfectly fine at 9.7.
Any light tank that has 18.5 HP/t at that BR is pretty sluggish. Keep in mind, tanks like T-72A or TURMS have ~19.0 HP/t and they’re one of the slower MBTs at that BR range, which makes Centauro’s mobility really lackluster.
