Only SEP family is equal to them, other versions are not.
Yeah but they do have CITV which compansates the lack of Gen2 thermals.
You do equip it, especially after BMPT spam because it gives you additional side protection which will increase your chances a lot if you get caught in bad position.
Lol sideskirts are not immune to 30MM projectiles at 90 degrees, with TUSK it becomes immune.
Without TUSK kit even Tunguska’s 30MM AP shell can shred from you from the side.
Yeah that’s a wet dream because Gaijin has no intention to introduce that mode and honestly I like destroying ground units with CAS.
Especially campers.
M829A3 would just be an L/55 DM53 equal, I don’t… know what you are imagining it to be, hahah.
But Gaijin officially stated that “M829A3 would change nothing gameplay wise”. It would mostly be a historical accuracy placebo effect.
Other nations can’t get any better simply because they didn’t develop or operate any better… their problem. We already have nations using unhistorical shells (Arietes using DM53, etc). I’m sure the trend could continue if it was absolutely necessary for balance.
HC variants are equal to SEP.
CITV is rather niche, and honestly not that useful. I do use it on Fire Arc I guess?
I’d take incredible resistance if it means im 3 tons lighter. But to each their own I guess?
Anti-ERA. Now yes, DM53 has this as well, but why would Gaijin add A3 if not to introduce Anti-ERA tips? I don’t think it would be good for the game. Ruins balance.
Just give us an ERA rework, as the current modelling is pretty bad.
Gaijin lies plenty. Unless this is from the viewpoint that M829A3 would be introduced without Anti-ERA capabilities for the sake of balance, as it has less sheer penetration than M829A2.
Which is why I don’t want to ruin it further. The shell balance at top tier is good right now. Some tanks could get slightly better shells like Leclerc I guess? Otherwise overall its in a good state.
You and me both know its not going to be a problem.
Maybe in your world, not in game nor in real life.
According to your personal experience but they are quite useful to scout around and observe before getting out from the cover, not to mention it allows you peak more safely and return fire without exposing yourself too much.
If CITV was a niche thing armies wouldn’t spent money on them to put them into their tanks.
Its an optional choice so you can decide whatever you wanna do with your Abram’s.
Personally after BMPT spam I decided to equip TUSK kit once again despite I dont like it.
Btw on both videos you were already angled enough to deflect 30MM rounds from BMPT’s which doesnt prove your point in slightest, now do it again while showing your side at 90 degree and lets see how long you can stand against those APDS rounds without TUSK kit.
Now when did I mention real life? They’re equal in game.
Binos do this well.
This is about WT, not real life.
It does prove my point though? Did I take any damage even though that was a relatively flat angle? Most other tanks would be in far worse shape.
The comp sideskirts give you enough time to react to the BMPT without adding 3 tons of rather dead weight to your tank.
According to who, you? Yeah no.
Yea and it also has benefits in wt, whether you accept it or not.
Actually its the opposite. On second video you were showing your side flat for couple seconds and BMPT instantly took out your engine and your track, thanks to your reflexes you managed to turn just in time and saved your tank with that move, if you were showing your side for 1 or 2 seconds more you’d be crippled without TUSK kit in that case.
Thanks for proving my point actually.
M1A2 weighs 62t, M1A2 SEP v2 weighs 63t.
That’s a difference of 2200 pounds, perhaps you should tone down your hyperbole a bit?
Furthermore, every book has letters, not everything with letters in it is a book.
Added armour adds weight, not all added weight equals added armour.
L27A1, M829A2, DM53, Type 10, M338, and man other shells we have been getting since 2019 should have had anti-ERA tips.
Gaijin will either model it for all, of for none; and I’m inclined to believe it will be for none.
M829A3 would therefore just be L/55 DM53.
Of course they would introduce it without anti-ERA capabilities; as I said above, just like every shell they’ve introduced in game over the last years which doesn’t have them modelled either.
I’d rather have ERA rework vs K5 tanks being rendered utter garbage and thus either compressed downwards or dead entirely, as Gaijin is extremely slow to decompress. Powercreep = bad tldr
Taking into account that there’s also several thousands of pounds worth of weight-saving measures between baseline A2 and SEPv2…
Besides, turret armor improvements, specially against CE and particularly on the sides, are officially confirmed and even officially acknowledged by Gaijin themselves.
But it would appear they are in no hurry to correct this verified error.
Have you seen the Abrams hull armor discussion? Its so back and forth with no good answer to the point where its extremely difficult for anybody to draw a conclusion.
Yeah sorry but your personal idea doesn’t change the truth and trying to impose this idea will not effect me.
I can just change the distance to 1km and make it completely immune to 30MM APDS from side in protection analysis.
Yeah now do it again but this time change the distance to 100-200 meters which was the engagements distances during those fights and show me the 90 degree protection, I’m waiting.
Also you’re trying to defend your niche point by using perfect examples and scenarios while I specifically stated that TUSK will come in clutch in bad scenarios (such as getting caught off guard from side or dealing multiple enemies at once).
Yeah, I never mention the hull armor anymore because there’s nothing conclusive enough;
However, there’s 100% clear and conclusive information regarding SEP and SEPv2’s turret armor compared to baseline A2, officially acknowledged and accepted by Gaijin, and they still refuse to fix it.
Just like the turret ring, fuel tank bulkheads, etc.
Honestly the functional difference would be incredibly negligible.
Valid.
Negligible afaik.
First of all you do realize 30MM doesn’t fire single shell in every 5 seconds unlike your Abram’s right? It can put multiple rounds in couple seconds which is more than enough to cripple you if you get caught off guard, its the whole reason why I said TUSK becomes viable in this case.
This is a very cheap attempt I must say.
By the time those shells were aimed at your critical compartment your hull was already angled more than enough, with or without side skirts you were going to survive anyway.
Try not to act like your reaction didn’t change anything in this case.
